Le 2011-12-12 à 04:12, Jérémy DE ROYER [INGENCYS] a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> XCloud wrote 
> "Powered by newest Apple’s Mac Pro and Xserve Hardware, VMware vSphere and 
> Mac OS X Lion Server."
> 
> We use mac pro for our servers. I think they do the same as Xserve doesn't 
> exist anymore, even if they have old ones…

VMWare vSphere (v.5) only runs on a Xserve (and only to a specific version of 
the Xserve), so unless they make it to work on a Mac Pro, it's a dead product. 
Unless you get your own Mac Pro or Mac Mini, I wouldn't go with a OS X 
solution. And honestly, why OS X Server if it's only to host WO apps and 
databases? I would use OS X Server only if you want to use the other services 
(iCal Server, mail, managed profiles, etc.).

Also, they write:

"VMware vSphere is fully supported server virtualization solution that is 
certified to run on bare Apple Mac Pro and Xserve."

But AFAIK, when vSphere 5 was released with official OS X support, they said it 
only runs on the latest Xserve and could only run Snow Leopard Server, and 
xCloud supports Lion Server. And I remember that people on the MacEnterprise 
list tried to get Lion working on vSphere and it didn't work. So either they 
have a special build of vSphere or it's, sorry to say this, bullshit :-)

Anyway, before signing on if you want to use a OS X virtualization service, you 
should ask questions about long-term support… which can be a difficult to 
answer to, because it's Apple and we don't know if they will stop doing Mac 
Pro...

> Jérémy 
> 
> Le 12 déc. 2011 à 10:07, Gino Pacitti a écrit :
> 
>> Thank... I was looking at this company... http://xcloud.me/
>> 
>> They seem to virtualized Lion server.... they seem to be still using Xserve 
>> though... ?
>> 
>> Gino
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca>
>>> Date: 12 December 2011 03:25:51 GMT
>>> To: Gino Pacitti <ginok...@mac.com>
>>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Server Question
>>> 
>>> BTW, with 200-300 users per instance with 20 instances, you should look at 
>>> load balancing. I guess that having that number of users is for an 
>>> important app, so load balancing (or at least fail over) is something to 
>>> look at…  VMWare ESX or XenServer could be an option. With ESX it can move 
>>> a VM live(!) to another host if one of your server host is down.
>>> 
>>>> Ah... so what do think is the best platform for WebObjects ?
>>>> 
>>>> What sort of RAM, CPU and OS for about 20 Instances with around 200 - 300 
>>>> users per instance...
>>>> 
>>>> G
>>>> On 9 Dec 2011, at 19:05, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That's an answer than even ex-Apple people won't give… But I think it was 
>>>>> Oracle for database and Solaris as the OS (which would explain why they 
>>>>> don't even need Xserve and stopped building them). I have heard SAP is 
>>>>> involved for the Apple Store but those are just rumors.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What server and OS are used by Apple for iTunes and Apple Store... What 
>>>>>> sort of configuration is used do you think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> G
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