Mike Kupfer a écrit :
Well, you're a Contributor because you have been recognized as "having
substantively contributed toward accomplishing the tasks of that
Community Group".[1] So at the Community Group level, I guess there's a
potential bootstrapping problem, in that one way to contribute is to
help maintain the web presence, but you need Contributor status first.
Just to be clear, I was referring to the article below, which is more
specific on how it works for the recognition by the Community Group:
7.7. Contributors. The Contributors of a Community Group shall include
every person who has been designated by the Core Contributors of that
Group to have contributed substantively to that Group's efforts,
including (but not limited to) every person who has contributed
intellectual property to the OpenSolaris Community as a result of those
efforts.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/governance/#ARTICLE_VII.__Community_Groups
It's specifically interesting for the UG as they are now, where the CG
couldn't acknowledge all Contributors, only each UG's CCs can.
But in most cases, I'd expect that the person would have gotten
Contributor status by starting out doing something else, like
contributing to a project or participating on mailing lists. I agree
that it's *possible* that the person wouldn't already have Contributor
status, but I think it unlikely. So I don't see this as a
serious-enough problem that it would require changes to the initial
XWiki-based deployment.
Again, how do you define a Contributor's status? There's nothing
official about it as far as I can tell. Contributors are not listed the
way Core Contributors are.
AFAICS, the Constitution doesn't define what it means to be a project
Contributor. That leaves it up to the project leaders to decide who's a
(project) Contributor, doesn't it?
Yes, so we would need to establish a way for Project leaders to define
those. Practically, this amount to a per-user definition, right?
Maybe it would help the discussion for Valerie to give more details
about the situations she mentioned (with respect to editing
security-related web pages).
But in practice, I don't see that as a problem. From what I've read,
it's not a problem with wikis in general, and it doesn't seem to have
been a problem so far with our use of the wiki on genunix.org.
Yes, I didn't mean it would necessarily be a problem, I was only
pointing it out. I don't have much experience with wikis in general.
Can I still point out that some well known wikis around are full of
spam, and that reporting it seems to go in a black-hole, so all is not
well in wikiland, and I'd rather be more restrictive than less at first.
It's easier to later give away than take back.
Have a look there for an example of what I mean:
http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/Siwiki:Privacy_policy
I'm also wary in general of growing list of people with all the same
theorical level of responsibilities, In my experience, it often dilutes
individual responsibility so much that in the end, nobody assumes it.
But again, this is only in general, I may be wrong, of course.
I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you saying that someone could get
Contributor status without having signed an SCA, but that Sun would want
an SCA on file before the person is allowed to edit pages?
Exactly.
Unless things have changed recently, and lawyers have mellowed out
greatly, no edition of Sun-owned pages without a SCA (see, it's good to
have the viewpoint of people outside @Sun.com here, you Sun employees
have it easy editing and stuff ;-)
Seriously again, it's still obviously possible to be acknowledged and
designated a Contributor by doing something else than editing Sun's web
pages or publishing copyrighted material to os.o.
In my opinion, the best participants to UG mailing lists would deserve
the title, so if we get to designating Contributors, I'll have a few names.
We're still talking here about assigning a role to a status that has,
technically, no real existence. Unless I'm mistaken?
My vote goes for establishing technical roles totally different from the
constitutional roles, and please, with different names - we've got
enough naming confusion already.
Laurent
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