Lynn Rohrer wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstood something... Is planet.opensolaris.org
not part of the new XWiki website which would make it
difficult to update?
hi ...
The team that manages the transition to XWiki from the old tonic webapp
can not make decisions about what blogs to add to planet.os.org because
that site is managed by Glynn Foster. That's why I suggested checking
with him.
planet.opensolaris.org is one site among many opensolaris.org websites.
We have been using the term "subsites" to describe this, which probably
not the best of terms. Here are all the sites that make up opensolaris.org:
* arc.opensolaris.org: Architecture Review Committee case data
* auth.opensolaris.org: Membership/account management application
* bugs.opensolaris.org: Bugs-by-mail submission to Sun's Bugster
database
* cr.opensolaris.org: Code review tool
* defect.opensolaris.org: Open defect tracking
* hub.opensolaris.org: XWiki-based site for community editing
* jucr.opensolaris.org: Package/spec file submission
* mail.opensolaris.org: Mailing list management
* pkg.opensolaris.org: Open source package repositories
* pkgfactory.opensolaris.org: Automated collection/build/submission
of FOSS to jucr
* poll.opensolaris.org: Community voting
* repo.opensolaris.org: Source code management console: Mercurial &
Subversion
* rti.opensolaris.org: Open request-to-integrate tool under development
* src.opensolaris.org: Source browser
* test.opensolaris.org: Access to test farm
When we talk about XWiki, we are talking about one of those sites:
hub.opensolaris.org. That's the place where we do community editing of
pages and such, it's split up into Communities, Projects, and User
Groups based on our governance structure, and it's probably the most
well known among the general community (just as the old tonic webapp
was). However, it's not the only place where work gets done (as you can
see form the list above).
planet.opensolaris.org was opened up a few years ago by Glynn Foster and
he has been managing it ever since -- just as each of the subsites had
an owner who manages his/her site. Each site offers the community a
different service -- testing, code review, mail, bugs, whatever. These
are explained on the site map:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/site-map
Now, regarding blogs: back on the old tonic webapp, we had 2 levels of
blog aggregation:
* one at the top level of the site which I managed
* one where Community and Project owners had the ability to add
blogs in their spaces
Then on top of that, planet.opensolaris.org came along as a 3rd level of
blog aggregation, which Glynn managed. So, we ended up with 3 levels of
blog aggregation.
When we moved to XWiki, we decommissioned one of those levels -- the top
level that I manged. However, we kept the ability for each Community,
Project, and User Group to add blogs to their own spaces on XWiki via
the RSS macro. And planet.opensolaris.org just stays as it is because it
was not involved in the website transition. So, now we are down to 2
levels of blog aggregation.
I was proposing a once a quarter update of the blogroll (which
I think can be done by the advocacy community). That way
the task could be shared by a handful of folks and not
dumped on one poor soul.
I understand. That's what I was doing on the old tonic site for the most
part. Your idea would only be suitable for the old space I used to
manage, but it no longer exists. Also, although the concept is fine, it
still has to flow through one person with site admin privileges to edit
top level pages (the non Community, Project, User Group stuff).
My concern is that no one person on opensolaris.org can
know all the active bloggers... hence the suggestion for
relying on the community facilitators and osug leaders.
I agree with your concern (and I've been trying to collect bloggers for
six years). However, there are many ways to deal with the problem. For
example, since no one can know all the bloggers, as you suggest, it
makes sense to distribute the function among the Communities, Projects,
and User Groups and let them post whoever they want to their spaces.
Facilitators are involved in governance interactions only, and the OSUGs
are only one Collective group (albeit the biggest). There are also a
couple of hundred projects, too. All I am saying is that each Collective
on the site right now has the ability to collect blogs.
Many communities are under represented in the current
planet.opensolaris.org by virtue of not having their top
bloggers listed.
planet.os.org was never intended to host all OpenSolaris bloggers.
planet.opensolaris.org is also heavily Sun populated...
would love to recognize the folks in the community
who are advocating on the behalf of opensolaris.org.
Again, that is a decision for Glynn based on whatever criteria he uses.
I know this is confusing. Apologies for that. We are still evolving.
Plus, we are right in the middle of a substantial website transition
(which is about 2/3 complete). Over time we are hoping to layer a common
look/feel across the subsites (as much as possible given that they are
separate applications), and put more context in XWiki so when you are on
the site it feels as seamless as possible.
Jim
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