I believe that the section above Merthyr is operated under a contract where 
Stagecoach dont retain any revenue so there's no incentive for them to do 
anything (I assume the WAG would complain if Stagecoach started running their 
own extra journeys!). Despite the number of competing services recently (6060s 
recent one and the one from Aberdare a few years ago) it's not very good bus 
territory.

A Sunday service would be useful however (6060 used to run one a few years ago) 
especially if the service is viewed as part of a long distance network.


--- On Mon, 21/5/12, Philip Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Philip Weaver <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Traws Cymru
> To: "Welsh Bus Photographs" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 17:22
> The only 'improvement' seems to be
> that you no longer have to change
> buses. The timetable is basically the same as before the
> changes. I
> think Stagecoach have missed an opportunity here, especially
> as Sixty
> Sixty no longer compete with them.
> 
> On May 21, 10:40 am, "Simon Morris" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carl Berry
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:22 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Traws Cymru
> >
> > >The WAG have now had a hissy fit because Arriva
> have registered most of the
> > >rest of the Traws Cymru network commercially which
> puts their grand vision
> > >at threat, dispite the difficulty of working out
> what the grand vison is
> > >and (given how long they've been talking about it)
> when they were >going to
> > >deliver it!
> >
> > --
> >
> > I wonder if the Welsh Government really ARE having a
> hissy fit about it? It
> > sounds good to make it appear that they are, maybe.
> >
> > I'm a little suspicious myself of the way things are
> ultimately going to go
> > with Arriva's 'Cymru Express'.....but all the same,
> good luck to them. What
> > investment has there been in the North Wales
> 'Trawscambria' in recent years?
> > Have their been any improvements in vehicles or
> timetables?
> >
> > No - there hasn't. But there's been a constant stream
> of reports from local
> > authorities regarding their 'aspirations' (their term)
> for the future of
> > these services, but no action. At least Arriva are
> having a go themselves.
> >
> > As for WAG, I believe the current administration (and
> Transport Minister)
> > are in fact rather less committed to buses than they
> once were, the reality
> > of public finances being what they are. The T4 isn't
> actually all that it
> > could be (and that's no fault of the operator).
> Branding and publicity is
> > insipid and only people south of Brecon have seen any
> actual improvements in
> > the basic timetable.
> >
> > No, I'm firmly convinced that anything which allows WAG
> to spend less
> > themselves is probably more welcomed than they'd like
> us to believe.
> >
> > Simon
> 
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