But what do you like so mutch about the Microsoft stuff, what is so great about vs.net? I am asking this because I am interested.
Thanks,
Evert
2006/5/23, VGJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Before we moved to Java as our primary platform at work, I had done years of development w/ MS technologies and you can love or hate Microsoft, but the ease of which you're able to sit down and get to work is one thing they *have* gotten right. The fact that it takes four months to install vs.net on modern hardware probably says something to that, but regardless, you're able to simply focus on your application - not like the relatively gnarly dev environment setup w/ Java.
Though I prefer Eclipse *slightly* over Netbeans I think Sun is headed in the right direction when it comes to ease of initial setup, probably inspired by Visual Studio. I think most new users would find it easier to start w/ Netbeans for this reason. I'd be using it myself if the editor was as nice and feature-rich as eclipse.
What I'd never want to see is the monolithic consolidation of technologies, like Microsoft has; you get one choice for app server, web framework, etc. If Java ever gets *that* easy than we've lost the massive advantage of freedom of choice.
Anyhow, I might blog-up a little setup guide for new users for Windows and Linux using Wicket as the web framework. I'll try to do that this weekend as crunch-time will be over and I can breathe once again.
Anyone else there developing on Linux? I use Gentoo myself but I suppose the "majority" is probably using Ubuntu by now? Linux might be a tough one to please a lot of people as far as setting up the JDK (though this should get easier w/ the new license.)
-v
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 08:59 +0300, Alvar Lumberg wrote:Basically his problem seems to be this whole J2EE hell which has nothing to do with wicket - like creating a webapp directory with a valid structure, add web.xml and so on..I suppose VGJ got the point and there most certainly is work to be done so building web apps in Java doesn't intimidate the hell out a of a Java novice. On 5/20/06, Nick Heudecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm also confused by this. What are the specific problems you're > encountering? The more detail you can provide, the better the wiki page > I'll write will be. :) > > > On 5/20/06, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > configuration hell with wicket? well for some of us who have tasted > struts, spring web flow and JSP stuffs....wicket is heaven > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
