Hoi,
You are absolutely right. Both approaches have promise. It is however a
marketing job, not a research job to realise their potential. Marketing is
where the WMF sucks.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 27 August 2016 at 22:49, Dario Taraborelli <dtarabore...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Nice, thought-provoking post, Pine.
>
> Here's my take on two ways to attract a population of good-faith
> contributors 1 or 2 orders of magnitude larger than the current one, based
> on what I've seen over the last couple of years:
>
> *Gamified interfaces for microcontributions à la Wikidata game*.
> (per GerardM) there's absolutely no doubt this model is effective at
> creating a large volume of high-quality edits, and value to the project and
> communities. So far these tools have been primarily targeted at an existing
> (and relatively small) population of core contributors and the only attempt
> at expanding this to a much broader contributor base (WikiGrok) were too
> premature. I do expect we will see more and more of lightweight distributed
> curation in the next 5-10 years. In my opinion Wikidata is ready to
> experiment with a much larger number of single-purpose contributory
> interfaces (around missing images, translations, label evaluation,
> referencing etc)
>
> *Ubiquitous outreach, supported by dedicated technology*.
> I called out in my Wikimania 2014 talk
> <http://www.slideshare.net/dartar/wikimania-2014-the-missing-wikipedia-ads>
> the fact that the single, most effective initiative ever run to attract new
> contributors has been WLM (I am intentionally not including initiatives
> like WP in the classroom as they target a pre-defined population such as
> students, but they are probably the most advanced example in this
> category). Creating tools such as recommender systems and todo lists *tailored
> to the interests of particular, intrinsically motivated contributors* as
> well as the analytics dashboards <http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/> to
> measure the relative impact and best design of these programs, is the most
> promising venue to expand the Wikimedia contributor population.
>
> My 2 cents. How making the edit button 10x larger is not a solution to
> this problem is a topic I'll reserve to a separate thread.
>
> Thanks for starting this thread.
>
> Dario
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:32 AM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <
>> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>>
>>> The English Wikipedia alone has hundreds of thousands of items to fix -
>>> missing references, misspellings, etc. The problems are nicely sorted at
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_backlog . There are
>>> millions of other things to fix in other projects. So quality is getting
>>> higher in many ways, but the amount of stuff to fix is still enormous.
>>>
>>> What we don't have is an easy way for new people to start eliminating
>>> items from the backlogs. The Wikidata games are a nice step in the right
>>> direction, but their appeal to new participants is non-existent.
>>>
>>
>> there is a backlog? after 15 years contributing you tell that on the
>> research mailing list :) i used wikidata games for a couple of minutes and
>> great pleasure when i see the link flying by in an email. but i am never
>> able to find that link again in my life. maybe that is the problem? rename
>> the "donate" link to "contribute" and then have "money" and "time" which
>> links to code and content. just my 2c ...
>>
>> rupert
>>
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