Hoi, You are absolutely right. Both approaches have promise. It is however a marketing job, not a research job to realise their potential. Marketing is where the WMF sucks. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 August 2016 at 22:49, Dario Taraborelli <dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Nice, thought-provoking post, Pine. > > Here's my take on two ways to attract a population of good-faith > contributors 1 or 2 orders of magnitude larger than the current one, based > on what I've seen over the last couple of years: > > *Gamified interfaces for microcontributions à la Wikidata game*. > (per GerardM) there's absolutely no doubt this model is effective at > creating a large volume of high-quality edits, and value to the project and > communities. So far these tools have been primarily targeted at an existing > (and relatively small) population of core contributors and the only attempt > at expanding this to a much broader contributor base (WikiGrok) were too > premature. I do expect we will see more and more of lightweight distributed > curation in the next 5-10 years. In my opinion Wikidata is ready to > experiment with a much larger number of single-purpose contributory > interfaces (around missing images, translations, label evaluation, > referencing etc) > > *Ubiquitous outreach, supported by dedicated technology*. > I called out in my Wikimania 2014 talk > <http://www.slideshare.net/dartar/wikimania-2014-the-missing-wikipedia-ads> > the fact that the single, most effective initiative ever run to attract new > contributors has been WLM (I am intentionally not including initiatives > like WP in the classroom as they target a pre-defined population such as > students, but they are probably the most advanced example in this > category). Creating tools such as recommender systems and todo lists *tailored > to the interests of particular, intrinsically motivated contributors* as > well as the analytics dashboards <http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/> to > measure the relative impact and best design of these programs, is the most > promising venue to expand the Wikimedia contributor population. > > My 2 cents. How making the edit button 10x larger is not a solution to > this problem is a topic I'll reserve to a separate thread. > > Thanks for starting this thread. > > Dario > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:32 AM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < >> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: >> >>> The English Wikipedia alone has hundreds of thousands of items to fix - >>> missing references, misspellings, etc. The problems are nicely sorted at >>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_backlog . There are >>> millions of other things to fix in other projects. So quality is getting >>> higher in many ways, but the amount of stuff to fix is still enormous. >>> >>> What we don't have is an easy way for new people to start eliminating >>> items from the backlogs. The Wikidata games are a nice step in the right >>> direction, but their appeal to new participants is non-existent. >>> >> >> there is a backlog? after 15 years contributing you tell that on the >> research mailing list :) i used wikidata games for a couple of minutes and >> great pleasure when i see the link flying by in an email. but i am never >> able to find that link again in my life. maybe that is the problem? rename >> the "donate" link to "contribute" and then have "money" and "time" which >> links to code and content. just my 2c ... >> >> rupert >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> > > > -- > > *Dario Taraborelli *Head of Research, Wikimedia Foundation > wikimediafoundation.org • nitens.org • @readermeter > <http://twitter.com/readermeter> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >
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