On 9/22/19 1:34 AM, hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote:
> Hi Kingsley,
>
> that describes the core of the glue that DBpedia is. The definition
> leads to people downloading the EN DBpedia dataset and running
> statistics that will only discover what data is wrong or missing in
> the smallest parts of DBpedia.


The question was "What is DBpedia?" . What is misleading about it being
about Wikipedia content transformed into RDF and deployed using Linked
Data principles?

>
> What happened to "LOD is the largest knowledge graph on earth" ? 


The question wasn't "What is the LOD Cloud?" or am I missing something
here.


> Querying more Freebase data from DBpedia via Linked Data is a use case
> since over 10 years now using ontologies as a GPS.


Freebase is yet another derivative of Wikipedia content, isn't it?


>
> Also the definition you give limits the community to people who have
> edited 10 Scala Classes in the extraction framework, which is probably
> 10 people altogether.


Look, can't you simply make a clear statement of what is missing from my
definition of DBpedia? I sense you are talking about all the other
utilities that have been developed by the project beyond dataset
production e.g., services like DBpedia Spotlight etc?


>
> So this is the most exclusionist view I can think of.
>
> What you wrote here is adequate:
> https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/what-is-dbpedia-and-why-is-it-important-d306b5324f90
>
> What you wrote in your email as a summary is very narrow and
> misleading, see Markus Kroetzsch's email. People will continue to
> measure DBpedia by exactly the part of the data that is loaded in the
> Virtuoso SPARQL endpoint unless we make the derivatives downloadable
> outside of HTTP LD requests.


You really have to try using a slightly better tone when communicating.

You could simply say:

Kingsley, here are some thing that could be overlooked based on the
description your presented:

Item 1..N.

I'll just fix it, or worst case agree to disagree.


Kingsley

>
> -- Sebastian
>
>
> On September 22, 2019 12:30:24 AM GMT+02:00, Kingsley Idehen
> <kide...@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
>     On 9/20/19 1:31 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
>
>         Yes, you're touching exactly on the problems I had during the
>         evaluation - I couldn't even figure out what DBpedia is. 
>
>
>     Hi Denny and Sebastian,
>
>     To reiterate and/or clarify.
>
>     DBpedia is a community project comprising RDF datasets constructed from
>     Wikipedia content that's deployed using Linked Data principles.
>
>     The description above implies the following re focus breakdown:
>
>     [1] Dataset creation -- this cannot be created in line with Linked Data
>     principles without the items that follow
>
>     [2] Linked Data Deployment -- without this there is nothing to look-up
>     re follow-your-nose exploration
>
>     [3] SPARQL Query Services  -- without this there is nothing to query
>
>     Over the years I've written a number of posts addressing the key
>     question "what is DBpedia?"
>
>     [1]
>     
> https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/what-is-dbpedia-and-why-is-it-important-d306b5324f90
>     -- What is DBpedia, and why is it important?
>
>     [2]
>     
> https://medium.com/virtuoso-blog/on-the-mutually-beneficial-nature-of-dbpedia-and-wikidata-5fb2b9f22ada
>     -- Mutually beneficial nature of Wikidata and DBpedia
>
>
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. 


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