David, This is an amazing initiative. I truely hope it will become an exemplar toward a world full of localized and community relevant OER. I believe its pedagogical ties to the service-learning will bring the technology based social-network closer to the geographical community- network.
I look forward to watching and supporting this initiative as it grows. Peter On May 12, 9:42 am, "David Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our application to create a new public, online high school based on > OERs has been approved! > > http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 > > Now the real work begins... > > D > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Leigh, > > > Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. > > > Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you > > say everything so much better than me? > > > You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside > > institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent the > > new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a blog > > =http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj > > > It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and > > they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's > > lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au > > domains. > > > Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating > > eteaching from > > elearning.http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 > > But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description > > isn't it? > > > You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. > >http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 > > And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic > > Shift between wiki stuff. > > > We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some focus > > on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring > > now = so many domains producing so many "me too" courses/information. > > But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the > > lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities to > > just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked > > up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions > > grow legs. > > > I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do > > have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on > > this little > > challenge.http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 > > > In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this > > space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common sense > > in the one place. > > Here's one other.http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 > > regards, > >http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj > > > On Apr 26, 7:15 am, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to be > >> following this type of advice and insight. > > >> Regarding very slight change all too slowly... > > >> The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the people > >> like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of the > >> rhetoric but not the action. > > >> I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' models, > >> their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't have > >> anything near participation or openness, and as a result very little action > >> to then research. > > >> Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a public > >> seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position themselves > >> centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. > >> Typically, > >> they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop (if they have > >> one) involves sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that gets no reply. > >> And at > >> the end of the seminar people walk out feeling ripped off that they missed > >> their fav TV show to attend it and NOT participate. > > >> I'm sure this is the way it has always been, but today it is even worse > >> because we have all the lobby and research that says participation and > >> oppenness is the way, and the government and funding bodies are positioning > >> their criteria for this, but the measures and accountability for > >> participation and oppeness are not in place. As a result, millions of $ are > >> being awarded to some projects for people who are simply good at wearing > >> rhetoric without really changing their action. Their reports end up the > >> same > >> camelion output. > > >> I hope all this ranting is trikiing a chord your end, because I am seeing > >> it > >> more and more, and it is concerning me a great deal. > > >> So, your suggestion to get the grant and do it 'ourselves'. Would we do it > >> any better? Given that to get the grant we have to adopt both theirs and > >> our > >> rhetoric AND be accountable to that? The projects I am a part of that have > >> that accountability involve so many compromises that its easy to lose sight > >> of what you were trying to do in the first place. > > >> How can we obtain resources and retain the freedom to act and react quickly > >> and spontaneously like we have done so all along? Is this what the US > >> ideology of free markets and corporatism is trying to tell us? This self > >> organising principle based on a very simple funding arrangement of user > >> pays > >> and demand... > > >> I'm starting to wonder off and become incoherent (if I'm not totally that > >> way already). > > >> In short, it seems that we ARE doing it already, and each of us > >> individually > >> dragging our institutional blobs and resources along with us. I have > >> managed > >> to position my job and its performance indicators so that my work with > >> Wikieducator can be sustained. So in that way, the institution I am working > >> in is changing, and I have the freedom to act and react in that new > >> framework. When I started, they would have had me work in their LMS. So if > >> we can get enough people doing that (positioning their job into this Wikied > >> utility web service), we might start seeing more sustained resources into > >> Wikieducator's participatory and open model, and the individual freedoms > >> with that. At the moment, I suspect that most people are simply dabbling in > >> Wikieducator and are doing so outside their job description and performance > >> indicators. > > >> So either things like WIkieducaor continue on that path and be patient, CoL > >> and other facilitators doing what they can to promote and develop it. > >> And/or > >> we find a way that will suddenly tip the balance in a Google/Youtube kind > >> of > >> way that involves us getting a large amount of money and working outside > >> our > >> institutions with a very to subverting them...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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