Good qeustion Savithri The FCKeditor extension for Mediawiki converts the text into wiki syntax :-), which means that users can still continue editing in the conventional way.
Cheers Wayne 2009/9/27 Savithri Singh <singh.savit...@gmail.com> > Dear Wayne, > > WYSIWYG will definitely be useful for people who are diffident of working > with syntax - it will help more people to contribute to WE. > > Tell me something - if a page is created via WYSIWYG then later can we edit > it our conventional way? Then even embedding templates can ebe done. > > Allowing WYSIWYG is a great initiative. > > Savithri > > > 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Well, since my interest lies in active learning and engaging learners, I >> would like invite those with common interests to join me in brainstorming to >> find ways to engage members of the community. >> >> Warm wishes, >> Nellie Deutsch >> Sharing is Caring! >> Doctoral Student >> Educational Leadership >> Curriculum and Instruction >> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >> Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Wayne Mackintosh < >> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Nellie >>> >>> Would always welcome another 11,000 active members :-) >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Wayne >>> >>> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> You are very modest about the amount of work you put into making things >>>> happen on WE. I would like to invite the over 11,000 members of >>>> WikiEducator >>>> to become active participants. >>>> There is a great deal each of us can do to share the load and show the >>>> world that WE is an active community that is bringing education and >>>> learning >>>> to everyone on the planet. >>>> Warm wishes, >>>> Nellie Deutsch >>>> Sharing is Caring! >>>> Doctoral Student >>>> Educational Leadership >>>> Curriculum and Instruction >>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh < >>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Nellie, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the kind words :-) -- but it's not just me. >>>>> >>>>> We have a sterling team of volunteer techies with folk like Jim and >>>>> Wen-Chen watching over smooth operations of our web sites and future >>>>> technology deployments, we also have a team of WikiEDTech advisers plus >>>>> the >>>>> folk over at Athabasca University preparing for the migration of the >>>>> servers. We have funders like the NZ Ministry of Education and Hewlett who >>>>> are helping us spread the reach of OER across the planet. We shouldn't >>>>> forget our committment to transparent and democractic governance models >>>>> with >>>>> a team of 25 international open education professionals who volunteer time >>>>> ensuring the stewardship of good governance. Above all -- the thousands of >>>>> educators who spend hours working on OER in WikiEducator. >>>>> >>>>> That said -- the independance we now have with the OER Foundation >>>>> (see: http://tinyurl.com/nnqg9e) gives us greater flexibility and >>>>> agility than was possible working under an intergovernmental agency. We >>>>> still have lots of work to do -- but have a very solid foundation for >>>>> scalable growth. >>>>> >>>>> Our next step is to figure out the best way to implement the embedding >>>>> of third party media (like video, slideshows etc) and this is high on our >>>>> list of priorities. The question of embedding third party media is not so >>>>> much a technical barrier, but more a question of free content licensing >>>>> and >>>>> open file formats. >>>>> >>>>> Increasingly, video hosting sites now provide functionality to tag user >>>>> rights -- for example Creative Commons Licenses. In an ideal world, we >>>>> would want the capabilities for WikiEducators to have access to editable >>>>> versions of the video files in open file formats. We're certainly a lot >>>>> closer to achieving this goal today than we were a year ago. >>>>> >>>>> Watch this spaces -- pretty soon we will be able to embedd video from >>>>> third party sites in ways which align with our community values! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Wayne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> Excellent progress, Wayne. I am very impressed by the amount of work >>>>>> and progress you are making to "make things happen" on WikiEducator and >>>>>> implementing WYSIWYG. I wonder if adding the editor would also allow >>>>>> publishers to embed html codes for videos. >>>>>> Warm wishes, >>>>>> Nellie Deutsch >>>>>> Sharing is Caring! >>>>>> Doctoral Student >>>>>> Educational Leadership >>>>>> Curriculum and Instruction >>>>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >>>>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >>>>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Wayne Mackintosh < >>>>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For sometime our Community has requested that we implement a WYSIWYG >>>>>>> editor in WikiEducator. Many teachers and educators say that wiki text >>>>>>> is a >>>>>>> barrier to participation. WikiEducator is keen to respond to these >>>>>>> requests. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To date, we've been holding back on implementing rich text editing >>>>>>> for two reasons: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Maturity of the WYSIWYG technology (Most notably issues with >>>>>>> templates and large content pages) >>>>>>> - A reliable funding source to implement the refinements that >>>>>>> will be necessary for an educational wiki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The MediaWiki+FCKeditor project has matured considerably over the >>>>>>> last 2 years and we believe that it is now feasible to install WYSIWYG >>>>>>> editing for WikiEducator. Also, with funding support from the New >>>>>>> Zealand >>>>>>> Ministry of Education we are now in a position to start work on the >>>>>>> implementation of refinements that will be required for educators (for >>>>>>> example, pull down menus for our pedagogical templates incorporating >>>>>>> text >>>>>>> boxes for the different parameters for these templates). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We need to cater for two kinds of users: 1) Those (like myself ;-) ) >>>>>>> who prefer wiki syntax to rich text editing and (2) those users who >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> prefer using a WYSIWYG environment. Fortunately -- the FCKeditor enables >>>>>>> users to make the choice. Even within the FCKeditor -- there is an >>>>>>> option to >>>>>>> edit using wiki text. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOTE: Experienced WikiEducators can continue to edit in the usual way >>>>>>> -- They will NOT be required to switch over to Rich Text Editing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I propose that we use a phased approach: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - *Phase 1*: Install the FCKeditor WYSIWYG editor as an optional >>>>>>> user preference. The editor works well for the majority of editing >>>>>>> functions, however the implementation for templates is not ideal and >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> be confusing for newbies. That said, newbies do not typically start >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> templates until they are more experienced and experienced editor >>>>>>> will know >>>>>>> how to use templates should they choose to use the RTE option. >>>>>>> Therefore, I >>>>>>> think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages in holding back on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> implementation until we get a better user interface for editing >>>>>>> templates. >>>>>>> There will be a few pages in WikiEducator where the rich text editor >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> not work effectively -- for example pages which are largely rendered >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> templates. On these pages we will turn-off RTE editing. These pages >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> maintained by experienced editors -- so there shouldn't be any >>>>>>> issues in >>>>>>> maintaining these pages. During Phase 1, there is a possibility that >>>>>>> we will >>>>>>> not have WYSIWYG capability for talk pages or the template namespace. >>>>>>> - *Phase 2*: Continue with development work regarding the >>>>>>> refinements we need for an educational wiki. These enhancements will >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> released once tested and reliable at a later stage during the >>>>>>> project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WikiEducators can test how WYSIWYG editing works using the >>>>>>> MediaWiki+FCKeditor project. Create an account and test the editor >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> the sandbox on this wiki: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/Sandbox >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please try this out and let us know what you think. Thoughts and >>>>>>> suggestions are welcome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that this is an important and valuable step for WikiEducator >>>>>>> and that we should be bold and move forward with the suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>>>>>> Director, >>>>>>> International Centre for Open Education, >>>>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>>>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>>>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, >>>>>>> www.wikieducator.org >>>>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>>>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>>>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>>>> Director, >>>>> International Centre for Open Education, >>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, >>>>> www.wikieducator.org >>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>> Director, >>> International Centre for Open Education, >>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह > प्रधानाचार्य > आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज > ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) > गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी > नयी दिल्ली 110019 > > Dr. Savithri Singh > Principal > Acharya Narendra Dev College > (University of Delhi) > Govindpuri, Kalkaji > New Delhi 110 019 > > Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 > Fax: (011) 2629 4540 > Res: 2584 8151 2584 9786 2584 3496 > > http://andcollege.du.ac.in > http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College > http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl > http://wikieducator.org/India > http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch > http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri > > > > > > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. 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