Good qeustion Savithri

The FCKeditor extension for Mediawiki converts the text into wiki syntax
:-), which means that users can still continue editing in the conventional
way.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/9/27 Savithri Singh <singh.savit...@gmail.com>

> Dear Wayne,
>
> WYSIWYG will definitely be useful for people who are diffident of working
> with syntax - it will help more people to contribute to WE.
>
> Tell me something - if a page is created via WYSIWYG then later can we edit
> it our conventional way?  Then even embedding templates can ebe done.
>
> Allowing WYSIWYG is a great initiative.
>
> Savithri
>
>
> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Well, since my interest lies in active learning and engaging learners, I
>> would like invite those with common interests to join me in brainstorming to
>> find ways to engage members of the community.
>>
>> Warm wishes,
>> Nellie Deutsch
>> Sharing is Caring!
>> Doctoral Student
>> Educational Leadership
>> Curriculum and Instruction
>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/
>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator:
>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nellie
>>>
>>> Would always welcome another 11,000 active members :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Wayne,
>>>> You are very modest about the amount of work you put into making things
>>>> happen on WE. I would like to invite the over 11,000 members of 
>>>> WikiEducator
>>>> to become active participants.
>>>> There is a great deal each of us can do to share the load and show the
>>>> world that WE is an active community that is bringing education and 
>>>> learning
>>>> to everyone on the planet.
>>>> Warm wishes,
>>>> Nellie Deutsch
>>>> Sharing is Caring!
>>>> Doctoral Student
>>>> Educational Leadership
>>>> Curriculum and Instruction
>>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/
>>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator:
>>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nellie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the kind words :-) -- but it's not just me.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a sterling team of volunteer techies with folk like Jim and
>>>>> Wen-Chen watching over smooth operations of our web sites and future
>>>>> technology deployments,  we also have a team of WikiEDTech advisers plus 
>>>>> the
>>>>> folk over at Athabasca University preparing for the migration of the
>>>>> servers. We have funders like the NZ Ministry of Education and Hewlett who
>>>>> are helping us spread the reach of OER across the planet.  We shouldn't
>>>>> forget our committment to transparent and democractic governance models 
>>>>> with
>>>>> a team of 25 international open education professionals who volunteer time
>>>>> ensuring the stewardship of good governance. Above all -- the thousands of
>>>>> educators who spend hours working on OER in WikiEducator.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said --  the independance we now have with the OER Foundation
>>>>> (see: http://tinyurl.com/nnqg9e) gives us greater flexibility and
>>>>> agility than was possible working under an intergovernmental agency.  We
>>>>> still have lots of work to do -- but have a very solid foundation for
>>>>> scalable growth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our next step is to figure out the best way to implement the embedding
>>>>> of third party media (like video, slideshows etc)  and this is high on our
>>>>> list of priorities. The question of embedding third party media is not so
>>>>> much a technical barrier, but more a question of free content licensing 
>>>>> and
>>>>> open file formats.
>>>>>
>>>>> Increasingly, video hosting sites now provide functionality to tag user
>>>>> rights -- for example Creative Commons Licenses.  In an ideal world, we
>>>>> would want the capabilities for WikiEducators to have access to editable
>>>>> versions of the video files in open file formats. We're certainly a lot
>>>>> closer to achieving this goal today than we were a year ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Watch this spaces -- pretty soon we will be able to embedd video from
>>>>> third party sites in ways which align with our community values!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent progress, Wayne. I am very impressed by the amount of work
>>>>>> and progress you are making to "make things happen" on WikiEducator and
>>>>>> implementing WYSIWYG. I wonder if adding the editor would also allow
>>>>>> publishers to embed html codes for videos.
>>>>>> Warm wishes,
>>>>>> Nellie Deutsch
>>>>>> Sharing is Caring!
>>>>>> Doctoral Student
>>>>>> Educational Leadership
>>>>>> Curriculum and Instruction
>>>>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/
>>>>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator:
>>>>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>>>>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For sometime our Community has requested that we implement a WYSIWYG
>>>>>>> editor in WikiEducator. Many  teachers and educators say that wiki text 
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> barrier to participation. WikiEducator is keen to respond to these 
>>>>>>> requests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To date, we've been holding back on implementing rich text editing
>>>>>>> for two reasons:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Maturity of the WYSIWYG technology (Most notably issues with
>>>>>>>    templates and large content pages)
>>>>>>>    - A reliable funding source to implement the refinements that
>>>>>>>    will be necessary for an educational wiki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The MediaWiki+FCKeditor project has matured considerably over the
>>>>>>> last 2 years and we believe that it is now feasible to install WYSIWYG
>>>>>>> editing for WikiEducator. Also, with funding support from the New 
>>>>>>> Zealand
>>>>>>> Ministry of Education we are now in a position to start work on the
>>>>>>> implementation of  refinements that will be required for educators (for
>>>>>>> example, pull down menus for our pedagogical templates incorporating 
>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>> boxes for the different parameters for these templates).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to cater for two kinds of users: 1)  Those (like myself ;-) )
>>>>>>> who prefer wiki syntax to rich text editing and (2) those users who 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> prefer using a WYSIWYG environment. Fortunately -- the FCKeditor enables
>>>>>>> users to make the choice. Even within the FCKeditor -- there is an 
>>>>>>> option to
>>>>>>> edit using wiki text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOTE: Experienced WikiEducators can continue to edit in the usual way
>>>>>>> -- They will NOT be required to switch over to Rich Text Editing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I propose that we use a phased approach:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - *Phase 1*: Install the FCKeditor WYSIWYG editor as an optional
>>>>>>>    user preference.  The editor works well for the majority of editing
>>>>>>>    functions, however the implementation for templates is not ideal and 
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>    be confusing for newbies. That said, newbies do not typically start 
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>    templates until they are more experienced and experienced editor 
>>>>>>> will know
>>>>>>>    how to use templates should they choose to use the RTE option. 
>>>>>>> Therefore, I
>>>>>>>    think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages in holding back on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>    implementation until we get a better user interface for editing 
>>>>>>> templates.
>>>>>>>    There will be a few pages in WikiEducator where the rich text editor 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>    not work effectively -- for example pages which are largely rendered 
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>    templates. On these pages we will turn-off RTE editing. These pages 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>    maintained by experienced editors -- so there shouldn't be any 
>>>>>>> issues in
>>>>>>>    maintaining these pages. During Phase 1, there is a possibility that 
>>>>>>> we will
>>>>>>>    not have WYSIWYG capability for talk pages or the template namespace.
>>>>>>>    - *Phase 2*: Continue with development work regarding the
>>>>>>>    refinements we need for an educational wiki. These enhancements will 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>    released once tested and reliable at a later stage during the 
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WikiEducators can test how WYSIWYG editing works using the
>>>>>>> MediaWiki+FCKeditor project.  Create an account and test the editor 
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> the sandbox on this wiki:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/Sandbox
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please try this out and let us know what you think. Thoughts and
>>>>>>> suggestions are welcome!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that this is an important and valuable step for WikiEducator
>>>>>>> and that we should be bold and move forward with the suggestion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Director,
>>>>>>> International Centre for Open Education,
>>>>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>>>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>>>>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,
>>>>>>> www.wikieducator.org
>>>>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>>>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>>>>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>>>> Director,
>>>>> International Centre for Open Education,
>>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,
>>>>> www.wikieducator.org
>>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>> Director,
>>> International Centre for Open Education,
>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह
> प्रधानाचार्य
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> >
>


-- 
Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg

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