Thanks Siko, also from me.
I do hope that you use this time to really learn of the dynamics of
grants/impact, by following up of earlier experience and also in
defining expectations targets etc in a specific area
For me an eyeopener was a program run in Sweden by WMSE to get more
female contributors. It was funded from outside WMF and primary
involved workshops for Wikipedia writing, in a form we are all familiar
with. The workshops was run in different middlesized towns and got a
very limited attendance, 3-15 persons, whereof only a tiny fraction
stayed on as Wikipedians after the workshop. I got annoyed at first
noticing it cost something like 100-200 dollar per participant, and 20
times as much to get the one among them who stayed on but only making
some 50-100 edits. I saw it as a truly waste of money (not WMF though).
But then I learned that those activities attracted more media attention
than any other program having been run by WMSE, there must now be
between 30-50 coverages in local and nationwide papers and radio
stations. And the funding body saw this as a thundering success, and
has given even more funding for a second year. And then something
happened as a result from this media coverage, more female editors has
now a year later turned up!
Anders
Chris Keating skrev den 2015-01-06 10:53:
Thanks for the details Siko!
Going back to the original message in this thread - I would indeed be
concerned if the WMF was shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3
months for no good reason.
However that's not really what's happening. It's more that non-urgent
grantmaking is being postponed; and there is a good rationale for it (one
more about wanting to experiment with grantmaking styles, than about the
gender gap being a special case).
Makes sense to me.
Chris
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:
Actually, the experiment is whether such a campaign would drive more
successful grants, as I understand it. It works from the assumption that
such grants would have a positive impact. I'm happy to go with that
assumption though.
I still strongly disagree with this initiative, but especially the way it
is executed. I'm glad to hear that all time-sensitive requests can still
apply during this period - that would probably be quite a few requests.
I'm still in the dark as to why this has to be a three month program (that
is a very long period of time to put everything on hold for an experiment)
and not just 2-4 weeks. Then you could actually commit to quicker
run-through times in the program, etc. Reducing the time frame would reduce
the damaging side effect significantly.
Lodewijk
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
Did you not see the bit about "experimental"?
Cheers,
Peter
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* Siko Bouterse wrote:
Why the gender gap? Although we’ve committed to supporting and
increasing gender diversity, so far these kinds of projects haven’t
emerged organically at any meaningful scale. In the first half of this
year, IEG and PEG have spent only 9% of funds on projects aiming to
directly impact this gap and less than ? of our grantee project leaders
have been women.
Without taking time to focus on increasing gender diversity in our
content and contributors, this trend is likely to continue.
What evidence is there that spending more on "gender gap" will have any
measurable impact on "gender gap"? I also note that you say "projects"
have not "emerged". That sounds like people do not actually have ideas
how
to "impact" "gender gap" with money. Could you identify a couple of
projects that would have considerable "impact" on "gender gap" but that
have been refused funding in the past due to a lack of "focus" on "gen-
der
gap"?
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