I wouldn't object to more Australians spread around the Wikiverse, and they are always welcome in the Netherlands
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > maybe the movement needs to get a few more Australians around events to > liven things up, as its never boring here... we'll even bring drop bears > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_bear> and other furry creatures to > keep > people on their toes 😁 > > On 8 December 2015 at 21:47, Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se> > wrote: > > > Do you imply boring is a bad thing? > > > > In a world more and more focusing on show and 10 seconds fame, I am proud > > and glad to be part of another type of society, where truth, reflection > and > > serious discussions are at focus > > > > Donald Trump is one of the least boring people just now, but I would be > > seriously unhappy if our movement was dominated with Donald Trump clones > > > > Anders > > > > > > > > > > Den 2015-12-08 kl. 14:36, skrev Milos Rancic: > > > >> We are. It's not about particular thread on this list, it's about our > >> existence. Initially I thought it's because the level of our > >> responsibility, but eventually I've realized we are simply boring and > >> nobody bothers about that. > >> > >> Our meetings and conferences look like the meetings of a regional branch > >> of > >> German Social Democratic Party at the best. In regular occasions they > are > >> more like the meetings of a village cell of a communist party from an > East > >> European country during the 80s. > >> > >> This enormous distance between the value of our work and ideals and > >> presenting ourselves to *us* in the range between shiny snake oil > >> merchants > >> and demagogues nobody trusts is quite striking. (OK, there is one more > >> end, > >> thus making a triangle: highly specialized topics which require highly > >> specialized knowledge to participate.) > >> > >> The distance is also quite striking because the most witty people I ever > >> met are from the Wikimedia movement itself. > >> > >> It's endemic. From local Wikimedian meetings to Wikimania. The most > >> interesting part of such events is talking with other Wikimedians. > >> Listening talks, lectures and ceremonies is the worst option. Workshops > >> and > >> collective decision making are like gambling: it could be constructive, > >> but > >> it could also be not just wasting time but occult session with the only > >> one > >> goal: to drain the energy from the participants. > >> > >> On average, I would rather spend two times more time talking with a > >> Wikimedian than listening her or his lecture or talk. > >> > >> There are some straight forward techniques. For example, we could work > on > >> making our talks much better. We could also ask HR professionals how to > >> make our live interaction better. > >> > >> However, being boring is somehow quite deeply rooted inside of our > >> culture. > >> While trying to become "serious", we lost our ability to be playful. > >> Creativity is something we treat as the least important of our > activities. > >> > >> This is not something which could be fixed quickly. There is no a pill > to > >> magically cure it. But we could start thinking about this as a problem > and > >> start implementing various ideas to tackle it. > >> > >> I wouldn't say that our revolution forbids us to dance. (Whenever > somebody > >> from Bay Area is DJ-ing, we dance and it's beautiful, no matter how > trashy > >> the music is.) But I am sure we can do better. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > GN. > President Wikimedia Australia > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
