"Since you are unable to imagine many actions more chilling than reporting bullying and harassment to an appropriate authority, let me suggest something that might be equally chilling -- calling for the banning from the list of someone because you disagree with what they have to say."
That wasn't what Robert said, nor was there "bullying and harassment" coming from anyone other than you, Rogol. This kind of passive-aggressive straw-manning is an example of precisely why you have worn out your welcome here. -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Robert > > If someone posts to an email discussion list owned and run by their > employer, using an email account provided by their employer, with a > signature block giving the name of their employer and their name and > position with that employer, and if their line manager is not only a > regular reader but a participant in discussions on the list, as recently as > yesterday, then it may reasonably be presumed that they expect their > employer to be aware of their posting. > > Since you are unable to imagine many actions more chilling than reporting > bullying and harassment to an appropriate authority, let me suggest > something that might be equally chilling -- calling for the banning from > the list of someone because you disagree with what they have to say. > > Roibéard > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Robert Fernandez <wikigamal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Since Rogol has followed through on his threat he should be banned from > the > > list, or we should have a public statement from the moderators regarding > > why they will not do so. > > > > I can't imagine many actions that would have a more chilling effect on > > participation here than one of this list's most frequent posters > contacting > > your employer because he disagrees with what you have to say. > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Since you kindly emailed my line manage Rogol, I wanted to confirm that > > my > > > choice of words were very carefully chosen. > > > > > > And I stand by them. > > > > > > Seddon > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Rogol Domedonfors < > > domedonf...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Joseph > > > > > > > > I chose my wording quite carefully, and suggest that you do so too. > I > > > said > > > > that the proposal "involves", not "is equal to" real-life identity > To > > > the > > > > extent that real-life identities are involved, it is reasonable to > ask > > > how > > > > that personal information is going to be handled. For some reason, > you > > > > seem keen to derail that part of the discussion by elevating a > quibble > > > over > > > > your hasty misunderstanding of my wording into an accusation, which I > > > > reject, of generalised misconduct. If you have some comment to make > > > about > > > > the handling of personal information, please do so. > > > > > > > > May I suggest that you withdraw your original posting, apologise to > the > > > > membership of this list for the unconstructive nature of your > posting, > > > and > > > > to me for its aggressive, insulting and incorrect content. > > > Alternatively, > > > > perhaps you would prefer me to ask your line manager whether this is > > the > > > > sort of behaviour that she expects you to exhibit in a public forum. > > > > > > > > Reginald > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Joseph Seddon < > jsed...@wikimedia.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Real identity does not equal real-life identity. You can mask your > > > > > pseudonymous identity and pose as a third party similarly > > pseudonymous > > > > > individual. > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet) > > > > > > > > > > Seddon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject= > unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Seddon > > > > > > *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* > > > *Wikimedia Foundation* > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
