It depends on the nature of the incident. If the harassment took place on the wiki, yes, it should be reported via an on-wiki process since it does not involve private information. On the English Wikipedia, that would generally be AN/I.
If the harassment happened off-wiki (e.g., via harassing emails), on the English Wikipedia it may be reported to the Arbitration Committee ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee). Other projects may have different processes for handling incidents which involve off-wiki harassment. Todd On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:11 PM Isaac Olatunde <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I don't know the fact directly but the standard procedure is to > discuss it with a local administrator on the relevant talk page or notice > board. So, Vermont is correct. > > The T&S does not usually take action in cases that can generally be handled > by the local community. Thus, responses such as "falls outside the > Foundation's remit" isn't bad in such cases. > > Regards. > > Isaac > > > > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 22:51 Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l, < > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > More generally, conduct issues are handled locally. We do not have a > > central authority to handle issues like this; local communities are, in > the > > vast majority of cases, capable of handling conduct problems of it’s > > editors. Not to mention that T&S would be incapable of handling every > minor > > conduct problem. > > > > It also is not something that is usually emailed to emergency@; if > there’s > > extensive problems with harassment, and local functions do not work, > > c...@wikimedia.org will get you in touch with T&S who can look into the > > issue. > > > > However, you haven’t tried to handle this locally. Creating an ANI > section, > > seeing that people aren’t 100% in agreement with your preferred outcome, > > and then removing it is not very helpful towards resolving this. > > > > From my somewhat limited looking into the events, there’s been some > > problematic shows of incivility on from both parties, with WWGB using the > > word “cutie” in an offhand edit summary. It isn’t appropriate, it > certainly > > didn’t improve their point, but calling it sexual harassment and hoping > for > > the WMF or others to take immediate and dire action without community > input > > is misleading and unrealistic. On a collaborative project, problems are > > handled collaboratively with uninvolved editors looking at the issue > from a > > third party perspective, giving their input, and at some point an > > administrator coming along to enact the consensus. That’s why > noticeboards > > of this type exist, which discuss and evaluate conduct issues to seek a > > resolution. We do not know how other community members and admins would > > have participated in the discussion because it was cut short. > > > > I noticed that you said, on Facebook, that you did not feel safe talking > to > > WWGB directly about it, and that you did not feel safe on ANI. I’m very > > sorry to hear this; though I am not sure what you believe to be unsafe > > about leaving a talk page message stating your having taken offense at > > WWGB’s remarks, or asking for input from administrators and the community > > to resolve the issue, those are the methods of fixing issues. If either > > action were met with hostility, insult, or further harassment, there > would > > be a very clear and simple case for an administrator to take action, and > > thus would have been much easier. If WWGB, however, apologized and agreed > > not to continue with such conduct in the future, it would also have been > > much easier. We don’t have a sort of secret police to handle issues in > > private. The community processes exist for a reason, and when permitted > to > > take place, usually work. > > > > Best regards, > > Vermont > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 17:27 Aron Manning <aronmanni...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 22:43, Chris Sherlock < > chris.sherloc...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have been advised by the WMF that if anyone is concerned about > being > > > > sexually harassed they must report this to AN/I and there are no > > private > > > > mechanisms to report this sort of thing. > > > > > > > > Is this for real? > > > > > > > > > Assuming you've contacted Trust&Safety, "falls outside of the > > Foundation's > > > remit" is a standard answer to receive as a regular editor. > > > > > > Bringing the issue to ANI it will most likely be ignored. If your issue > > is > > > with a long-term / established editor it has a significant chance to > > > boomerang <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wp:BOOMERANG>. > > > > > > Sadly, this is for real and somewhat the reason behind the UCoC > proposal. > > > Whether that will change this is another question. > > > > > > Aron > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
