If someone feels harassed then a public noticeboard is the last place to send them for help, that is an absolute failure of the community to understand that the act of reporting is also doubling down on the harm. Doing so publicly is indicating to the person committing the harassment that they have succeeded in causing harm.
This folks is the very reason why we fail to retain editors and breach the imbalance of editors and continue have trouble with bias. Everyone speaks english but the cultural nuances of the language vary greatly with words having multiple meanings and being used specifically to cause offense. The word cutie has its meanings; - of being nice looking when talking about kids and animals but once its used referring to an adult as part of a discussion its changes to that of them being; - of being an arsehole - of being picky - and of having sexual connotations ranging from you are fuckable, to your sexual orientation. When these complaints get to something like AN/I those cultural and linguistic nuances get dismissed and the person using them has gained a lot of power, self satisfaction, and endorsement of their harassment as being ok, with a bonus that other users are now also enabled to harass the complaining editor knowing full well that AN/I will do nothing. The bottom line is if a person feels harassed they have been harassed, whether we understand the depth of why they feel harassed is not relevant but that should not be a barrier to prevent further harassment. On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 06:21, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Chris, > > This isn't a terribly bad advise, AFAICS. > > Harassments are treated on a case-by-case basis. > > So, if this is something you aren't comfortable discussing publicly, you > could email the Functionary team or ArbCom or similar body in that > community. > > If it's something that should be removed from public view, you could > contact the oversight team. > > I can't see the contents of the harassment, so I can only speak based on > general principle. > > Regards > > Isaac > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 23:07 Chris Sherlock, <chris.sherloc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > To be clear, this is what I was advised: > > > > “ Harassment concerns can be reviewed under the appropriate community > > process. I would therefore advise you to report the edit summary to the > > appropriate channels on the wiki it occured. If this happened on English > > Wikipedia, this would be the Administrator's board for incidents. > > I hope the above is helpful.” > > > > Chris > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 24 Aug 2020, at 6:43 am, Chris Sherlock <chris.sherloc...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I have been advised by the WMF that if anyone is concerned about being > > sexually harassed they must report this to AN/I and there are no private > > mechanisms to report this sort of thing. > > > > > > Is this for real? > > > > > > Chris Sherlock > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- GN. *Power of Diverse Collaboration* *Sharing knowledge brings people together* Wikimania Bangkok 2021 August hosted by ESEAP Wikimania: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnangarra Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page My print shop: https://www.redbubble.com/people/Gnangarra/shop?asc=u _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
