I knew they are theoretically self-appointed, but was under the impression that at least until now an appearance of democracy and legitimacy towards the community has been respected, which no longer seems to be the case. I wonder what would be the legitimacy of a self-appointing body in the eyes of the Wikimedia Movement, and all the communities which are part of it?
Regards, Paulo Adam Wight <adam.wi...@wikimedia.de> escreveu no dia quarta, 7/10/2020 à(s) 17:20: > Greetings, this is a semiautomated response pointing out that the > Wikimedia Foundation Board is not elected, it's self-appointing. The > so-called "elections" are in fact nominations to be considered by the > Board. Therefore, the Bylaws have not been broken. > > This is an unfortunate arrangement, please see [1] for some background > about the conversion from a membership organization to a non-membership > organization which is no longer legally required to hold elections. > > Regards, > > Adam W. > [[mw:User:Adamw]] > > [1] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_membership_controversy > > On 10/7/20 5:55 PM, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > > The terms of 3 BoT members expired last month, and the BoT itself decided > > to extend them? What is the legitimacy of that? And why is a BoT which is > > expected to be in a mere interim management waiting for elections, > > presenting profound changes to its Bylaws [1]? > > > > [1] - > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/October_2020_-_Proposed_Bylaws_changes > > > > Best, > > Paulo > > > > Nataliia Tymkiv <ntym...@wikimedia.org> escreveu no dia quarta, > 7/10/2020 > > à(s) 16:49: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I can answer a few of the questions raised in this thread. > >> > >> When the Board postponed the community selection of trustees, we also > >> extended the terms of the trustees in the affected seats (María > Sefidari, > >> Dariusz Jemielniak, and James Heilman)[1]. Their terms were originally > set > >> to expire last month, but because of that term extension they are still > >> serving as trustees, and as such María remains the Board Chair and > Dariusz > >> and James continue on as Committee Chairs[2]. > >> > >> Raju Narisetti and Esra'a Al Shafei have been reappointed to the Board > for > >> an additional three-year term[3][4]. > >> > >> The current members of the Board of Trustees are listed on the Wikimedia > >> Foundation website[5]. > >> > >> We do not currently have a shortage of trustees on the Board, and we > have > >> had a quorum for every decision we have made this year. We have > published > >> some outstanding Board records, many of which were just approved at our > >> recent meeting in September[6][7]. > >> > >> I have just sent an email to this list, as well as posted an update to > >> Meta-Wiki, with a request for feedback on matters related to the > >> Foundation’s Bylaws and trustee selection[8]. That announcement contains > >> more information about the postponed community selection of trustees. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv > >> > >> Vice Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > >> > >> [1] > >> > >> > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Postponement_of_Community_Selection_of_Trustees_and_Extension_of_Community_Selected_Trustee_Terms_until_next_selection_process > >> > >> > >> [2] > >> > >> > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_Officers_and_Committee_Membership,_2019 > >> > >> > >> [3] > >> > >> > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Renewing_Raju_Narisetti%27s_Appointment_to_the_Board_of_Trustees,_2020 > >> > >> > >> [4] > >> > >> > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Renewing_Esra%27a_Al_Shafei%27s_Appointment_to_the_Board_of_Trustees,_2020 > >> > >> > >> [5] https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/board/ > >> > >> > >> [6] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings > >> > >> > >> [7] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolutions > >> > >> [8] > >> > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/October_2020_-_Call_for_feedback_about_Bylaws_changes_and_Board_candidate_rubric > >> < > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/July_2020_-_Call_for_feedback_about_Bylaws_changes_and_Board_candidate_rubric > >> > >> *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal > working > >> hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during weekend. > You > >> should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. Thank you > in > >> advance!* > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:52 PM Bill Takatoshi <billtakato...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> After I asked my questions on September 4, I was sent the message > >>> below by some role account I've never heard of, asking about claims > >>> that have used the names of five other people. I don't edit under my > >>> real name, but I have never used the names in the linked forum > >>> postings. > >>> > >>> The linked posts also claim that the Foundation's nonprofit status is > >>> at risk. I am not a lawyer, but I am skeptical of that claim even > >>> though five Trustees whose three-year terms expired in August > >>> apparently voted on a Resolution in a Board meeting on September 24. > >>> According to Section 4 of the Bylaws, "A quorum shall consist of a > >>> majority of Trustees then in office." Section 6 says, "the Board may > >>> continue doing business as a Board during the vacancy of any Trustee > >>> position." Therefore, since four of the five remaining Trustees all > >>> voted in favor, the Resolution was properly carried, in my layperson's > >>> view. I am less certain about the propriety of allowing a Trustee > >>> whose three year term expired to continue to serve as Chair. > >>> > >>> The lack of any update or even ETA for an update on > >>> > >>> > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2020#Postpone%3F > >>> is baffling. Elections have never been held in person, only online, > >>> and so the excuse that they were postponed because of the pandemic > >>> crisis seems extremely suspicious. Indefinitely delaying elections for > >>> such a vacuous reason makes the Foundation look like the worst of the > >>> bad actors in today's international political climate. Doesn't the > >>> cancelled travel of the pandemic crisis give the Foundation more time > >>> to hold elections, not less? Whether non-profit status is at risk or > >>> not, I would hope that the Foundation, Board, and Elections Committee > >>> would be more interested in upholding the principles of good > >>> governance than failing to even announce a new schedule or even a date > >>> by which a new schedule will be announced. > >>> > >>> -Will > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:31 PM Gender Desk <genderscr...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Mr. Takatoshi, > >>>> > >>>> Wikipediocracy has suggested that you have also used the names "Rogol > >>> Domedonfors, Renée Bagslint, Jennifer Pryor-Summers, Felicity Braingut, > >>> Thomas Townsend and others." > >>> http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=11567 > >>>> Can you comment on that? > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Genderdesk > >>>> > >>>> genderdesk.wordpress.com > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 7:38 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> Can anyone from the elections committee comment? What is the current > >>>> plan? //S > >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 8:05 PM Bill Takatoshi < > billtakato...@gmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> How long can the Foundation legally postpone Board of Trustees > >>> elections? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2020#Postpone%3F > >>>>> has a comment from April saying, "Once things get moving again, > >>>>> appopriate [sic] date for the election will be decided and an > >>>>> announcement will be made." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees#Current_members > >>>>> suggests that five board members terms end on "Wikimania 2020" -- but > >>>>> is that accurate? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Term_Limit_Proposal_for_Bylaws > >>>>> is clear that "All Board terms are three years" and "the term of each > >>>>> such appointment shall not exceed three years." > >>>>> > >>>>> Who are the current members of the Board of Trustees? > >>>>> > >>>>> Can the board achieve a quorum in its present state? > >>>>> > >>>>> Who is the Chair currently? > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 > >>> 4266 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
