Edward's copyediting is a great improvement, and a nice illustration of how, >95% of the time people say they want more space to write in, what they actually want is fewer words. Thanks to all who contributed to this and especially Stevie, of course: I'm sure it will be very useful.
On 16 September 2013 17:33, HJ Mitchell <hjmitch...@ymail.com> wrote: > Edward's suggestions seem sensible to me, though I'd be happy with either > version. > > I might also be inclined to remove "by the architect", especially if we're > using a sculpture as an example. > > Harry Mitchell > http://enwp.org/User:HJ > Phone: 024 7698 0977 > Skype: harry_j_mitchell > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Edward Hands <edwar...@gmail.com> > *To:* wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > *Sent:* Monday, 16 September 2013, 16:56 > > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your > thoughts? > > Stevie, Michael, etc > > I think this could be more concise in a few places (see my suggested > changes below in black). In the final caveat, I think that "are often" > better represents the reality than "may be". > > best wishes > Edward Hands > > *Freedom of panorama in the UK* > > Under UK law, you can upload a photo of the architecture of any building > (inside or outside) without infringing any copyright held by the > architect. The same applies to any 3D artwork, such as a statue, provided > that it is *permanently* located in a public place (somewhere normally > open to the public, including interior spaces such as museums). So, you > can freely upload a photo of the Angel of the North, even though the > sculpture itself is copyright-protected. Note that this applies only to > 3D works, and not to 2D works such as posters or signs - even if on they > are on public display. Note also that the rules outside the UK are > oftendifferent. > > Hello everyone, > > Latest iteration of the document is at > https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wp_Commons_SHIP_12pp_September_UK.pdf > > I still need to add in the location URL on the back page and give the > document a final proofread. Other than those two things I'm pretty happy. > I've updated the freedom of panorama information (although please note the > size limitations on that page). If there are no further (important) changes > then I plan to get a version over to the printer next week. > > Thank you, > > Stevie > > > On 15 September 2013 17:13, Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: > > Proposed new simpler version: > * > * > *Freedom of panorama in the UK* > > Under UK law, you are allowed to upload a photo of the architecture of > any building (inside or outside) without infringing any copyright held by > the architect. The same applies to any 3D artwork, such as a statue, > provided that it is *permanently* located in a public place (this means s > omewhere normally open to the public, including interior spaces such as > museums). So, you can freely upload a photo of the Angel of the North > sculpture, even though the sculpture itself is copyright-protected. > Note that this applies only to 3D works, and not to 2D works such as > posters or signs - even if on they are on public display. Note also that > the rules outside the UK may be different. > > Michael > > > > On 14 Sep 2013, at 16:57, Michael Maggs wrote: > > Ok Harry, I will have a go at tweaking the text to put the buildings > info first. It would be easier to be more straightforward if we had more > space to fit this into. > > Michael > > On 14 Sep 2013, at 16:29, HJ Mitchell <hjmitch...@ymail.com> wrote: > > Pardon me, Michael, but I think that might be a bit too jargony. If I > was a complete novice on copyright, I'd have to read that several times to > work out that I could upload a photo of any building in the UK without > infringing a third party's copyright. The important part is that if it's 3D > and permanently lives in a public place (like a building or a statue), it's > fair game. An example might be useful in illustrating the point for > novices; Nelson's Column comes to mind... > > Harry Mitchell > http://enwp.org/User:HJ > Phone: 024 7698 0977 > Skype: harry_j_mitchell > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > > > -- > > Stevie Benton > Communications Organiser > Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 > @StevieBenton > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. 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