On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Tim Starling <tstarl...@wikimedia.org>wrote:
> Praveen Prakash wrote: > > Is it possible to implement some method to tell server both characters > > are same?? > > No. > > > It is heard that more changes coming in future versions of > > unicode. And now almost half of the data coming is in unicode 5.1 > > version. I am not sure about reverse converting. > > That link you gave in your last post had a conversion table, it looks > pretty straightforward: > > CHILLU NN -> NNA, VIRAMA, ZWJ > CHILLU N -> NA, VIRAMA, ZWJ > CHILLU RR -> RA, VIRAMA, ZWJ > CHILLU L -> LA, VIRAMA, ZWJ > CHILLU LL -> LLA, VIRAMA, ZWJ > > The other new characters would remain unconverted. > > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > Given that we should be moving forward not backward, it makes more sense > to > > provide Unicode 5.1 characters and webfonts. > > > > The big thing of MediaWiki was that it supported Unicode when this was > still > > a new thing to do. We should support the latest and the best Unicode > > support. > > You did read the post didn't you? Forcing everyone to buy Windows 7 is > not generally the way we do things. Unless the client situation is not > as bad as it sounds, we will need to have a transition period where we > support older clients until their market share falls far lower than > 50%, which is where, by Praveen's figures, it is now. > > -- Tim Starling > Letter k (ൿ) was undefined in prior Unicode 5.1. According to my knowledge letter nta (ന്റ) and tta (റ്റ) need explicit OS support (?) to display, Which is not available yet (*Windows 7* ??). I am sorry, exclusion of these letters are not intentional. I included chillaksharams only because they are creating most of the problem. Frankly we didnt face any problem caused by other letters. But it is possible. Popular transliteration tool for Malayalam typing (*Varamozhi*) and popular font (*Anjali OldLipi*) are currently supporting Unicode 5.1 in windows. Recently (two or three days before) Microsoft announced their own tool for Malayalam typing which also supporting 5.1. Microsoft's default Karthika font for Malayalam also now supporting 5.1. But IE6 is not supporting unicode 5.1 even with supporting fonts. In the case of Linux there are third party input definitions for SCIM (Mozhi and Inscript), and altered default fonts (*Rachana*, *Meera* etc) to unicode 5.1 which are widely using ones. No Linux OS giving default support for unicode 5.1 on Malayalam, but it can be fixed by Firefox extension, altered tools and fonts etc. Sometimes that need technical knowledge. In Mac OS there is no proper support for Malayalam by default. But Some Malayalies fixed it and its in Unicode 5.1. So number of people using Unicode 5.1 is increasing day by day. But there are lot of people who believes that new Chillaksharams definitions are grammatically not correct and not ready to switch. I personally not with them. Do I need to invite some people from both sides here? I afraid none of them are ready for some agreement. :-(. We are discussing this problem since before the release of Unicode 5.1 (More than 2 years), still not solved. Once Unicode has implemented these atomic Chillaksharams (i think in 2004) and then they removed it on next version for further discussions. This is the second inclusion of those characters. It does'nt look like those chars will be compromised in future versions. This is the condition of current stage of Malayalam Computing. So I thought it is better to put equivalence than switching to a particular version. If it not possible switching as said by Tim is appreciable. I prefer 5.1 which is future. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
