Zack and Ralph,

The WISPA Board encourages all members to help develop our Association.  As
you know the WISPA Board is made up of WISP Operators just like yourself and
I'm sure you know how precious our time is.  When we go to the FCC with an
idea, we have to write a document requesting a change in policy.  The FCC is
not going to do our job for us.  I suggest you will both be much more
successful in your pleas for a Policy Stance Doctrine on the use of FCC
certified equipment, if you type a formal request and suggested text for
this stance and submit it to the board for either a Board vote or a Member
vote.  

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zack Kneisley
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] In support of legal operation

John, List.. anyone else really.

I was trying not to get into a discussion at a "12 year old level". I merely
support anyone who feels that they want to change something, through a
structured method. Although I agree on this particular issue, making a
statement  "look at our code of ethics" does not accomplish that Ralph
requested.

Is there no structure in WISPA? Is there no means to petition an
organization that supposedly "represents all wisps" to entertain the mans
request? Is there no sturcture in WISPA that is aimed towards ratifying or
creating a documents.

I think what it comes down to is a few simple questions.

Does a member of WISPA have the right to request such a public stance?
Does WISPA have a means of debation these requests?
Is there even a process in place that could lead to a document such as Ralph
requested?

If WISPA is not open to have a democratic way to represent the individual
wisps, then this whole debate has no merit. If an individual that comes to
the table with an idea, getys shutout by one person.... What type of
organization is WISPA.

I've thought of joining WISPA on several occasions, but I have yet to see it
as an organization for WISPS, after all, given this thread, it doesn't seem
that there is not any self governing process to ask for anything. Unless I'm
seriously missing something, there are no processes in place that allow a
member or non member to bring a topic to the table, and for it to be
considered as an action that WISPA should take. To myself, WISPA looks like
an organization controlled by a handful of individuals, not by the WISPS it
is supposed to, in its own Code of Ethecs Attempt to represent.

WISPA's Goals see:http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=6

6. Political lobbying group – Unified voice for the WISP industry

How can this be acheived when the discussion turns to name calling and
comparing the thoughts of others to 12 year olds.


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WISPA, at least make an official statement to Ralph. Either, stating that
WISPA, (not John), believes that WISPA' ethics statement achieves the same
goals as Ralphs request, or, that WISPA is just plain rejecting the idea -
with an explanation why..

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Now, can you understand why their are people that would passionately get
behind WISPA, if only an adult discussion, debate, and decision be made.
Where is the leadership that makes these calls.. who makes these decisions?

I'm sorry for obvious grammatical mistakes and typos, 4:00 AM comes fast.

Zack
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