Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a minipci wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal...
You guys please come to conclusion so we can move to #2 Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 -------- Original Message -------- > From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:13 PM > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" <sc...@brevardwireless.com>, "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > Scott, Thats not the case, you have to have the Mikrotik FCC Sticker etc.. > > To your questions. > > 1. Nope > 2. Nope. > > > * ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > WISPA Vendor Member* > *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net > <http://www.linktechs.net/> > */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* > <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp> > > The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which > it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > > Randy, > > > > Dumb question.... If you are a wisp what would be the motivation to > > certify a "kit"? > > > > Its been clearly stated that you can take the RB, a radio card and stick it > > in an enclosure and use it to your hearts content legally per FCC / UL > > rules. Why would anyone do anything other than just use the parts - except > > if you are reselling the gear... I think that's where you run into the > > issue of having to have the whole system certified vs just buying and using > > the parts. > > > > Is that correct? lol sorry to be such a pita but I'd like some definitive > > answers just once so I can put this to bed... > > > > Questions I ask myself... > > > > 1) Ok, Its legal and perfectly accepted for me to buy a RB411, a XR5, a > > PoE-24i, an ARC 5Ghz Gen 2 Enclosure put it all together and use it for my > > on network or customers all day long every day (assuming I'm legal power, > > correct bands etc)... > > True or False > > > > 2) Assuming #1 above is True - I cannot sell this equipment as a Brevard > > Wireless Model 500 ptp radio bridge on the retail market without getting > > the whole system certified as a "kit" including all parts, documentation, > > power supplies etc... > > True or False > > > > 3) If #1 and #2 above are both true, I'm clear thanks conversation over. > > If either one is false we have a lot more to talk about... > > > > Scott Carullo > > Brevard Wireless > > 321-205-1100 x102 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > >> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:08 PM > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > >> > >> I belive you must purchase hardware directly from MT to be a > >> > > distributor. > > > >> * ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > >> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> > >> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > >> WISPA Vendor Member* > >> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net > >> <http://www.linktechs.net/> > >> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* > >> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp> > >> > >> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the > >> > > Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended > > only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which > > > >> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. > >> > > Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any > > action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than > > the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you > > > >> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material > >> > > from any computer. > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Randy Cosby wrote: > >> > >>> Can we clarify what a "distributor" is, and what a "reseller" is as far > >>> > > > > > >>> as Mikrotik is concerned for this program? Can a wisp (are they > >>> resellers?) get permission from Mikrotik to certify a kit? Where can > >>> > > we > > > >>> find out more on this? Are there distributors who will do on behalf of > >>> > > > > > >>> a wisp? > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> Mike Delp wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> I think that what Dennis was trying to say is. You have to be a > >>>> > > Mikrotik > > > >>>> Distributor, and follow their documentation to be able to use their > >>>> > > lab > > > >>>> testing certification. Distributors are effectively MT agents using > >>>> > > their > > > >>>> already completed certification testing. Anyone can take some parts > >>>> > > and > > > >>>> have them lab tested and certified as a system. Mikrotik has already > >>>> > > gone > > > >>>> through the expense of testing in a lab, and they have a program to > >>>> > > make > > > >>>> these certifications available from the distributors. So, there is a > >>>> difference in having parts listed as certified, and having a complete > >>>> > > system > > > >>>> with a sticker on it. The sticker makes it complete. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Scott Carullo > >>>> > > <sc...@brevardwireless.com>wrote: > > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I'm pretty sure the FCC and the testing labs don't care who you are > >>>>> > > or > > > >>>>> where you buy your stuff... thats not what they are looking for. > >>>>> > > Example > > > >>>>> - I choose to take 4 parts (some mikrotik) and get them certified - > >>>>> > > I > > > >>>>> can.... Do you see this differently? > >>>>> > >>>>> Scott Carullo > >>>>> Brevard Wireless > >>>>> 321-205-1100 x102 > >>>>> > >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM > >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > >>>>>> > >>>>>> First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It > >>>>>> > > has > > > >>>>>> to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images, > >>>>>> > > text > > > >>>>>> etc on it as well. You can only get those if you are a MT > >>>>>> > > distributor. > > > >>>>>> * ----------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > >>>>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> > >>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > >>>>>> WISPA Vendor Member* > >>>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net > >>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> > >>>>>> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* > >>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by > >>>>>> > > the > > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is > >>>>> > > intended > > > >>>>> only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > >>>>>> > > material.. > > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking > >>>>> > > of any > > > >>>>> action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities > >>>>> > > other than > > > >>>>> the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > >>>>>> > > material > > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> from any computer. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Randy Cosby wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Can you explain what you mean by "certified" then? What does that > >>>>>>> entail other than just putting together a board, antenna and radio > >>>>>>> > > that > > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> are fcc certified? Do you have the entire unit tested and > >>>>>>> > > certified, > > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> or > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> do yo see that as not necessary? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Randy > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Eje Gustafsson wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cross roads are certified with the entire Pacific Wireless line > >>>>>>>> > > of > > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> antennas. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> R52 is certified with most of those as well (if not all). You can > >>>>>>>> > > also > > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> use > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> XR2/5 cards in RB SBC's. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There are other solutions as well. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We offer some certified pre built solutions more to come. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> / Eje Gustafsson > >>>>>>>> CTO > >>>>>>>> WISP-Router, Inc. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > >>>>>>>> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> On > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM > >>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've > >>>>>>>> > > seen > > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> that > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> JeffSoHoCo has "certified" gear. Is that based on the same > >>>>>>>> > > Mikrotik > > > >>>>>>>> program you describe here Mac? Is that information available > >>>>>>>> > > from > > > >>>>>>>> Mikrotik to any reseller? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Randy > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mac Dearman wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Word on the FCC certified gear is that they are working with > >>>>>>>>> > > USA > > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> based > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> resellers to get them up to speed to offer certified gear. It's > >>>>>>>>> > > all > > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> in the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> paperwork at this point in time and we all know that the devil is > >>>>>>>>> > > in > > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> paperwork. It is on its way from what I understand and should be > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> readily > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> available in the near future. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Mac > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > >>>>>>>>>> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ] > >>>>> On > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now. Not sure on anyone > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> else. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> everyone > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> else. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ---------- > >>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett > >>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> > >>>>>>>>>> To: <isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com>; "WISPA General List" > >>>>>>>>>> <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> that > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> etc.). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Travis > >>>>>>>>>>> Microserv > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ----------- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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