Butch, >> There are many venues to get quality MT content for example, I'd rather >> WISPA push content that WISPs cant get anywhere else to push a stronger >> call to action to come. > > I don't understand this statement at all. I am assuming you mean you > would like to see content in this show that isn't being presented > elsewhere. If so, what, SPECIFICALLY, would you suggest?
To explain what I means..... Quality Mikrotik Training available at... 1. Butch Evans training acadame (I've seen your name many times on for pay training). 2. Dennis Webinars training, 3. Microik MUMs 4. Eje's training camps. Etc etc etc etc. If I want Mikrotik training, it will take me about 2 minutes to go find some. That is a COMPLIMENT to Mikrotik that they are developing such a strong support/training base in the USA. So what I'm saying is that a WISPA show would not be a unique show of New content if it just became another standard Mikrotik training siminar. (I'd love to see Mikrotik specific training as either a parallel thread or piggy back as a day before/after main show.) I do NOT mean to say that Mikrotik shouldn;t have any involvement or session. Mikrotik should have as much opportunity for exposure as any other vendors, and maybe even more because we have so many vendor members that sell Mikrotik. And we have so many GOOD Mikroik training people as resources to WISPA. I'm simply suggesting that we look for unique content. I suggested MPLS, because I have not seen many sessions on MPLS at shows I attended. Its also a feature that I think many WISPs dont use yet, because its new, and ironically its probably one of the most unique things about Mikrotik. I can tell you if there was a MPLS for Mikrotik Session, I would surely attend it. But you know, you are probably the better one to ask "what is unique Mikrotik training?" Because you provide so much training, you probably know what you have covered and haven't? What are your suggestions? But I'm also not saying it is easy to come up with unique topics, that is the big challenge of doing a great show. > I think the content should include some technical discussions with > specific products or technologies. To use the example you brought up, > MPLS, we could build a small MPLS network using Mikrotik and Cisco or > any other product. There could be a couple of sessions explaining the > technology, THEN we could provide a "breakout session" where people > could come in and experiment under the direction of someone who is > knowledgeable in the particular area. This could be a vendor, > consultant or end user. It wouldn't matter WHO provided the > configuration, but someone who could answer questions about the demo. I > don't see this as "pushing a vendor specific content" as much as USING a > known vendor for a particular technology. I think that is an EXCELLENT idea as a format for the session. > Back to reality, it could be Canopy, Mikrotik (nstreme) and maybe > Alvarion or some others. Each could offer a short "pitch" of what makes > their solution better (about 5 minute limit each) and the remainder of > the session could be Q&A. Attendees would love that. Although not sure many vendors would like that. But You did hit on a hot new topic of polling & TDD. The new trend is methods to mimic TDD, with hacked 802.11a MACs. Polling is not a new idea, if go back to Karlnet, Trango, even Waverider. But there are surely new implentations of it. We can use Ubiquiti's Airmux's new technique, or Mikrotik's NStreme, or Ligowave's proprietary MAC. I guess TDD and Polling are two different things, but its still the same kind if topic. It would be interesting to get the low down on the new technology. And compare how they stacked up to the old methods. Although that might needs some prior R&D testing to gather data before the presentation. Or we just let the Vendors come tell us more about their new methods. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butch Evans" <but...@butchevans.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Running Out for Trade Show Survey > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:08 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Not that I'm generally a fan to push MT or vendor specific content. > > I disagree with your assessment here. More on that below. > >> There are many venues to get quality MT content for example, I'd rather >> WISPA push content that WISPs cant get anywhere else to push a stronger >> call to action to come. > > I don't understand this statement at all. I am assuming you mean you > would like to see content in this show that isn't being presented > elsewhere. If so, what, SPECIFICALLY, would you suggest? > > I think the content should include some technical discussions with > specific products or technologies. To use the example you brought up, > MPLS, we could build a small MPLS network using Mikrotik and Cisco or > any other product. There could be a couple of sessions explaining the > technology, THEN we could provide a "breakout session" where people > could come in and experiment under the direction of someone who is > knowledgeable in the particular area. This could be a vendor, > consultant or end user. It wouldn't matter WHO provided the > configuration, but someone who could answer questions about the demo. I > don't see this as "pushing a vendor specific content" as much as USING a > known vendor for a particular technology. > > Along the same lines, I'd suggest a round table type discussion for > other product offerings such as wireless polling, for example. You > could have a Canopy guy and some "normal" people (sorry...just a JOKE). > Back to reality, it could be Canopy, Mikrotik (nstreme) and maybe > Alvarion or some others. Each could offer a short "pitch" of what makes > their solution better (about 5 minute limit each) and the remainder of > the session could be Q&A. > > I'm not recommending any particular content, but suggesting ideas for > what I would consider appropriate vs inappropriate content. > > -- > ******************************************************************** > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * > * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * > ******************************************************************** > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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