I will admit, Moto has made a name for itself as a company that is here for the long haul. >From that perspective, its always excitign to learn about new Moto products on their way.
No problem with the $350 CPE level. But, I'd argue $3500 AP is still way to high, even for 802.16e MIMO. The truth is, we all know the cost to make a MIMO device hardware is not that much more than to make legacy non-MIMO, or I should say, very insignificant compared to the market value of the higher capacity. Its all opportunity mark up. (Sure MIMO takes more processor power, more antennas, etc, but those things are likely obtainable cheaper today than their legacy components were when they were designed). I'd also argue that RF speed/price is similar to Computer CPU speed/price concepts. 50 mbps today is equivelent in value to what 10mbps was to us 5 years ago. Therefore price points should not exceed the cost of 10mbps 5 years ago, for the WISP to get a break even on the new technology. This is from both the perspective of consumer's demand for higher speeds, as well as technology advancement. I'd pose the same arguements.... Ubiquiti AP $99. vs Moto AP $3500. Paying 35x more for an AP is a tough call. Dont get me wrong, I've always been in favor of higher cost AP, simply because it discourages putting them up unnecessarilly to create noise, before they are needed, and discourages harry high school kid from calling themselves a WISP with one paycheck from McDs. But I'd argued Moto would need to beat the current Canopy Advantage line AP cost in order to make a big splash in the market. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "3-dB Networks" <wi...@3-db.net> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > Everytime I see that pricing it makes me cringe... since I've seen Moto > give > pricing way before a product is actually set to release and its way off > the > mark. I hope it's right for Moto sake :-) > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > dan...@3-db.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > > Soon as in q1 or q2 > > IIRC > $350~ SM > $3500~ AP > > Specs are in the website under 320 series > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:50 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> > wrote: > >>> moto >> >> Did you mean they are comming out with soon? or did you really mean >> they are >> talking about comming out with? >> >> In WISP time, there is a big difference. >> >> Yeah, it would be cool if that was comming in the near future at >> current >> Canopy level price points. >> But that is an if. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Cc: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear >> >> >>> Less? >>> >>> Moto is comming out with a 16e system with 4.5 bits per hz using mimo >>> >>> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >>> >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:45 PM, "Patrick Leary" <ple...@apertonet.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Why is your basic criteria .16e with MIMO (or .16e at all)? >>>> >>>> All .16e gets you in 3.65 GHz is much more (30% more) latency, less >>>> throughput per MHz, higher overhead and more cost. And you won't get >>>> any >>>> hope for interoperability, indoor modems, USB dongles or PC cards, >>>> since >>>> those are only applicable to licensed bands. >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> Aperto Networks >>>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:22 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Wimax gear >>>> >>>> We are looking for some more wimax gear to test for the 3.65 band, >>>> our >>>> basic criteria would be 802.16e/mimo, we've tested Alvarion gear >>>> already. We are looking for something that will work in an urban >>>> environment with self install radios, can deliver voice and if >>>> possible >>>> with PPP/NAT/DHCP in the radio rather then as an external gateway >>>> device. 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