The problem with politicians is simple. They have stopped thinking along the lines of what is right and wrong morally Instead - they think along the lines of legality: is this legal or illegal.
If there is no law to stop something - then its considered legal - even if morally wrong! In seminary I had to study words a whole bunch - amazing what you learn when you break apart a word down to its roots... Poli Tics = Multi Bloodsuckers ;-) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:57 PM, MDK wrote: > The multi-party systems develop the same problems as two-party systems... > They become cloistered, inbred, and eventually run by a network of insiders, > by, for, and for the benefit of, themselves. > > Just replacing insiders with another crop of insiders is pointless. You > need people with integrity, conscience, and common sense. > > When was the last time you saw a good party hack with those qualities? > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:29 AM > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article > >> There's nothing wrong with the two party system. The problem is the >> people that are in the two party system. >> >> Vote the career politicians out of office. This goes for both >> parties...in fact I view many of the incumbent Republicans in a dimmer >> light than the Democrats. Any Republican that has strayed too far from >> conservative core values needs to go IMO. >> >> Brad >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Philip Dorr >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:56 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article >> >> I would find it interesting if the runner up was the victor, of course >> there wold have to actually be more than our current two party >> majority system. >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Josh Luthman >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> I have not voted to this day, to be honest. >>> >>> It is the masses and "the public" that votes and they well out number me. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue >>> that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Josh >>>> >>>> How does it feel to be in the middle of a state where your vote hardly >>>> matters? >>>> >>>> I, in NJ had the same issue until recently. >>>> >>>> Let's hope the larger cities finally wake the heck up! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>>> You know I really didn't like Obama in the beginning. >>>>> >>>>> Now he's really pissing me off. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>> continue >>>>> that counts.” >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:53 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was just wondering about this the other day. It seems that we >>>>>> (USA) give >>>>>> things away so freely only to have them used against us. In the >>>>>> case of the >>>>>> net, I find it ironic that the very thing we developed is being >>>>>> used to >>>>>> attack our government and our people in so many ways yet we let >>>>>> everyone >>>>>> connect to it. I think we should start cutting of the ilk that hack >>>>>> or >>>>>> attempt to hack into our networks. >>>>>> -RickG >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Chuck Profito <cprof...@cv- >>>>>> access.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> From NewsMax: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sunday, 31 Jan 2010 06:41 PM Article Font Size >>>>>>> By: Bradley A. Blakeman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Without the ingenuity of America's brightest minds and the >>>>>>> investment of >>>>>>> U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it >>>>>> today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of >>>>>>> the >>>>>> Web >>>>>>> from the United States to foreign powers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some background: The Internet came into being because of the >>>>>>> genius work >>>>>> of >>>>>>> Americans Dr.Robert E. Kahn and Dr. Vinton G. Cerf. These men, while >>>>>>> working >>>>>>> for the Department of Defense in the Defense Advanced Research >>>>>>> Projects >>>>>>> Agency in the early 1970s, conceived, designed, and implemented >>>>>>> the idea >>>>>> of >>>>>>> "open-architecture networking." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This breakthrough in connectivity and networking was the birth of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Internet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These two gentlemen had the vision and the brainpower to create a >>>>>> worldwide >>>>>>> computer Internet communications network that forever changed the >>>>>>> world >>>>>> and >>>>>>> how we communicate in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They discovered that providing a person with a unique identifier >>>>>>> (TCP/IP)that was able to be recognized and interact through a >>>>>>> network of >>>>>>> servers would allow users to communicate with others. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The servers woulduse a series of giant receivers to recognize the >>>>>>> identifier >>>>>>> and connect networks to networks, passing on information from >>>>>>> computer to >>>>>>> computer in a seamless real-time exchange of information. This new >>>>>> process >>>>>>> of communication became know as the "information super highway," >>>>>>> aka, the >>>>>>> Internet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now for the bad news: In an effort to show the world how inclusive, >>>>>>> sharing, >>>>>>> cooperative, and international America can be, the Obama >>>>>>> administration >>>>>> set >>>>>>> off on a plan to surrender control and key management of the >>>>>>> Internet by >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> U.S. Department of Commerce and its agents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The key to the control America has over the Internet is through the >>>>>>> management of the Domain Name System (DNS) and the giant servers >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> service the Internet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domain names are managed through an entity named IANA, the Internet >>>>>>> Assigned >>>>>>> Numbers Authority. The IANA, which operates on behalf of the U.S. >>>>>>> Department >>>>>>> of Commerce, is responsible for the global coordination of the >>>>>>> DNS, IP >>>>>>> addressing, and other Internet protocol resources. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In short, without an IP Address or other essential Internet >>>>>>> protocols, a >>>>>>> person or entity would not have access to the Internet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For years, the international community has been pressuring the >>>>>>> United >>>>>>> States >>>>>>> to surrender its control and management of the Internet. They want >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> international body such as the United Nations or even the >>>>>>> International >>>>>>> Telecommunications Union, (an entity that coordinates international >>>>>>> telephone communications), to manage all aspects of the Internet in >>>>>> behalf >>>>>>> of all nations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the >>>>>>> Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful, >>>>>>> pervasive, and >>>>>> a >>>>>>> dependent form of international communications, that it would be >>>>>> dangerous >>>>>>> and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just this past spring, within months of Obama's taking office, his >>>>>>> administration, through the Department of Commerce, agreed to >>>>>>> relinquish >>>>>>> some control over IANA and their governance. The Obama >>>>>>> administration has >>>>>>> agreed to give greater representation to foreign companies and >>>>>>> countries >>>>>> on >>>>>>> IANA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This amounts to one small step for internationalism and one giant >>>>>>> leap >>>>>> for >>>>>>> surrendering America's control over an invention we have every >>>>>>> right and >>>>>>> responsibility to control and manage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is in America's economic and national security interests not to >>>>>>> relinquish any control. We are responsible for the control, >>>>>>> operation, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> functionality of one of the modern world's greatest inventions and >>>>>>> most >>>>>>> powerful communications network. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What better country to protect the Internet than the United States? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We invented it, and we paid for the research and implementation >>>>>>> that made >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> possible. We are the freest, most tolerant nation on earth, we >>>>>>> believe in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> fundamental right of free speech, and we practice a free market of >>>>>> commerce >>>>>>> and ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> America has always been against censorship and has shared its >>>>>>> invention >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the world without fee or unreasonable or arbitrary restriction. >>>>>>> The user >>>>>>> fee >>>>>>> to operate on the Internet is not one paid to the U.S. government; a >>>>>>> consumer pays it to private Internet companies, who provide access >>>>>>> to the >>>>>>> Internet through servers for their subscribers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Look no further than China's recent move against Google to censor >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Internet, and you can envision what can happen when other nations >>>>>>> less >>>>>> free >>>>>>> than the United States seek to control the Internet beyond even >>>>>>> their own >>>>>>> borders. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> America needs to wake up. If we lose control over the management >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> Internet, we have given away one of our nation's greatest assets >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>> in return to show for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Obama administration's actions will set in motion a slow and >>>>>>> complete >>>>>>> takeover of the Internet by the United Nations or some other equally >>>>>>> U.S.-hostile and unfriendly international body. And once it is >>>>>>> gone, it >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> be gone forever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The surrender of the Internet will spell disaster for our nation, >>>>>>> financially, as well as for safety, security and our standing as a >>>>>>> great >>>>>>> power that values freedom and the free exchange of ideas and >>>>>>> information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I am concerned, America is still the last best hope for >>>>>>> a more >>>>>>> peaceful and prosperous world and our president should not be >>>>>>> looking for >>>>>>> ways to weaken us. Rather, his job is to work to strengthen us and >>>>>> protect >>>>>>> our nation's greatest asset our people's creativity and ingenuity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bradley A. Blakeman, who was a deputy assistant to President >>>>>>> George W. >>>>>> Bush >>>>>>> from 2001-20004, teaches Public Policy & Politics & International >>>>>>> Affairs >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> Georgetown University. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> C Newsmax. All rights reserved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>>>>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of RickG >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:58 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Commissioner Robert McDowell's statement on >>>>>>> Broadband... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder what the catch is :) >>>>>>> -RickG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "First, do harm". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296081A1.pdf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This speech was made at the end of January... At least ONE >>>>>>> commissioner's >>>>>>>> got his head on straight... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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