The grant that I'm benefiting from is primarily for the anchor institutions, but they worked with multiple ISPs right off the bat. I have fiber coming into my network from this.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:47 PM To: <char...@knownelement.com>; "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL > In my area the middle mile being built is exactly for institutions with a > minor mention that they would sell bandwidth to providers. But the main > push is for the institutions. > > Middle mile for whom? > > Bob- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of char...@knownelement.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:17 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL > > Citations needed? > > I have seen many many many posts on this list discussing/complaining about > middle mile/back haul issues including access and expense. > > If the vast majority of wisps have access to sufficient back haul at > competive prices then I stand corrected. Do the wisps on this list feel > that > your back haul needs are being adequately met with existing infestructure? > Maybe someone should setup a poll on a website and let wisps vote? > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Bartosch <ch...@clarityconnect.com> > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:00:04 > To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL > > I think largely the middle mile funds are wasted. Most areas already have > at > least *some* fiber. The cost, and the problem, is in getting last mile > done, > not middle mile done. From my direct experience and observation, a lot of > the middle mile projects NTIA is funding is really for redundant fiber. > Where it isn't redundant it isn't really providing functionality that > would > help last mile access in the projects I've looked at. Worse, the middle > mile > projects are NOT being designed intimately with last mile providers. They > are going to "key community institutions" which (1) mostly already have > fiber connections and (2) really have no impact on where service is needed > for last mile access. > > Chuck > > On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > >> This is why I have said that the stimulus dollars need to go to middle >> milte build outs. Wireless as a last mile medium is very well understood >> and gives best bang for the buck in a lot of scenarios. >> >> Justin Wilson wrote: >>> I think part of the issue is economies of scale. Many rural ISPs >>> have >>> T1s and T3s at best. The cost of transport and bandwidth doesn¹t allow > them >>> to scale as well as they could if they had fiber or some other high > capacity >>> transport. With providers such as Cogent well under $10 a meg in bulk > you >>> can afford to up the speed (providing your network can support it) if >>> you >>> have access to such things. >>> >>> I have seen several providers start offering better speeds once they > had >>> access to a bigger pipe. I know in my area a T1 is still around $450 a >>> month. Get 4 bonded t1s and you are looking at $300 a meg. If you had >>> access to fiber and your transport + bandwidth cost you say $75 a meg >>> you >>> could afford to up the subscriber speeds. >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> >>> Justin >>> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> WISPA Wants You! 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