Are those MT AP's? Does RouterOS keep the bandwidth usage fair (everyone gets a piece)?
Greg On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:34 PM, MDK wrote: > Well, define "big plan". > > In a P2P situation, an 11a access point can move about 10 to 12mbit to the > clients - assuming quite a few clients (at least 20) and not over 8 miles. > My 2mbit customers... I can have 4-5 of them run pretty steady and things > are ok - not great, but ok. Once we pass that 4 running full speed at 2m, > everyone starts losing a little and if you've got 6 or more trying, > everyone's latency starts upwards pretty good. If you see 10 clients out > of 30 active, and if 4 are sustaining full 2m, then the AP is maxed, > completely. There's just no more bit delivery available. New demands > come at the cost of reductions to other delivery speeds. > > In a microcell, you could count on 3 6mbit customers getting good speeds, > but after that, the shortages simply divide up equally. Have someone throw > in full bore bittorent, and it drops even further, since it misuses the > airtime quite badly, and runs a lot of upstream data. Also, each client > added to the AP - whether its busy or not, adds overhead, and the throughput > diminishes a little. My busiest is 37 clients, and we're working on > transferring some off of it, as it's overloaded and some are having issues > with watching video, etc. > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:48 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL > >> I don't see hwy AirMax, N-Streme, or whatever Star's equivalent of those >> two >> couldn't maintain 30 customers with big plans (not all using it at once, >> however). >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >> >>> I'm thinking Ubiquiti Airmax can but I could be wrong? >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote: >>>> Yes, they can, but only a few clients per access point. You cannot do >>>> it >>>> with 30 clients on an 11A ap. You can if only 2-4 clients are ever busy >>>> at >>>> the same time. But I'm seeing sustained 2mbit transfers for HOURS to >>>> around 20% of my clients. >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>> >>>>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>> >>>>>> If so, with what equipment? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Are you delivering that wireless? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker >>>>>>> <jay...@spectrasurf.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> That's what we did. $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/mo >>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps. >>>>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed. A lot of people >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> like that too. >>>>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really do >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars. 35 Bux >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer a >>>>>>>>> 300K >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> 25 >>>>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but you >>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> outside of normal pricing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering something >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> a 7 >>>>>>>>> meg service. Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo. Not the >>>>>>>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 meg be >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> area? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>>>>>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM >>>>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> mailed >>>>>>>>>> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it they >>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. 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