MT allows you to create queues that will make sure everyone gets a piece.

Greg Ihnen wrote:
> Are those MT AP's? Does RouterOS keep the bandwidth usage fair (everyone gets 
> a piece)?
>
> Greg
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:34 PM, MDK wrote:
>
>   
>> Well, define "big plan".
>>
>> In a P2P situation, an 11a access point can move about 10 to 12mbit to the 
>> clients - assuming quite a few clients (at least 20) and not over 8 miles. 
>> My 2mbit customers...  I can have 4-5 of them run pretty steady and things 
>> are ok - not great, but ok.   Once we pass that 4 running full speed at 2m, 
>> everyone starts losing a little and if you've got 6 or more trying, 
>> everyone's latency starts upwards pretty good.   If you see 10 clients out 
>> of 30 active, and if 4 are sustaining full 2m, then the AP is maxed, 
>> completely.   There's just no more bit delivery available.    New demands 
>> come at the cost of reductions to other delivery speeds.
>>
>> In a microcell, you could count on 3 6mbit customers getting good speeds, 
>> but after that, the shortages simply divide up equally.   Have someone throw 
>> in full bore bittorent, and it drops even further, since it misuses the 
>> airtime quite badly, and runs a lot of upstream data.   Also, each client 
>> added to the AP - whether its busy or not, adds overhead, and the throughput 
>> diminishes a little.    My busiest is 37 clients, and we're working on 
>> transferring some off of it, as it's overloaded and some are having issues 
>> with watching video, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
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>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:48 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>
>>     
>>> I don't see hwy AirMax, N-Streme, or whatever Star's equivalent of those 
>>> two
>>> couldn't maintain 30 customers with big plans (not all using it at once,
>>> however).
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I'm thinking Ubiquiti Airmax can but I could be wrong?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Yes, they can, but only a few clients per access point.   You cannot do
>>>>> it
>>>>> with 30 clients on an 11A ap.  You can if only 2-4 clients are ever busy
>>>>> at
>>>>> the same time.   But I'm seeing sustained 2mbit transfers for HOURS to
>>>>> around 20% of my clients.
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>>>>> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM
>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> If so, with what equipment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Are you delivering that wireless?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker 
>>>>>>>> <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> That's what we did.  $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps.  $49.95/mo 
>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps.
>>>>>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed.  A lot of people
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> like that too.
>>>>>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really do
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars.    35 Bux 
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days.   We offer a
>>>>>>>>>> 300K
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> 25
>>>>>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but you
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>> outside of normal pricing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering something
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> a 7
>>>>>>>>>> meg service.    Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo.    Not the
>>>>>>>>>> cheapest.   Not the most expensive, either.     What would 7 meg be
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> area?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>>>>>>>>>> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> mailed
>>>>>>>>>>> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being 
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it they
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. Anyways we
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>> about 1 person a day switching from our $35/month/768k wireless
>>>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> this DSL. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to retain
>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> customers???? They are not even giving us a chance to offer them 
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>>> price as they all already have the DSL turned on and been using 
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> month before they cancel ours.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>>>>>>>> WAVELINC
>>>>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>>>>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>>>>>>>>> 419-562-6405
>>>>>>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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