I would guess that Cisco will honor if you add a Cisco built card, but not third party and only if you don't open the case.
Brad Belton wrote: > I may be wrong on this, but I doubt Cisco will void your warranty if you buy > an expansion card (exact same as you could buy from Cisco directly) and > install it in your Cisco router. > > I'm not suggesting Imagestream should be onboard with a user installing > something other than what Imagestream sells directly, but if the card the > end user installs is exactly the same....what's the problem? > > Imagestream doesn't keep record of how a product was configured before it > was sold? So, if there is an expansion card added Imagestream can simply > say you need to remove that card before we can help you...not just flat out > void the warranty on the entire product. > > Anyway...just an opinion. > > Brad > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:23 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) > > How so Brad? > > We sell a complete, warranted, supported product. If you want to buy the > pieces/parts and build your own, that's great (and I believe that you do). > How can we warrant a product when we did not put sell all the gear that went > in to it? If there is a product defect, how are we supposed to know if it > is our gear or 3rd party gear that caused it? Believe me, there are enough > variables in the process already. > > ImageStream provides a year warranty and a year of support (including 24/7 > emergency support) with all of our routers above the little Envoy. We offer > free lifetime software upgrades. We give a 31 Day Performance Guarantee > with all of our routers. Is it too much to ask that all gear in the box > come from us during that period? It's not like we charge Cisco prices for > RAM, NICs, power supplies, etc. > > Regards, > > Jeff > > > Jeff Broadwick > ImageStream > 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) > +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Brad Belton > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:23 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) > > Void the Imagestream warranty for putting the exact same card Imagestream > installs is pretty chickenshit IMO. > > Sorry, you caught me at a bad time this morning... > > > Brad > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:01 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) > > Hi All, > > I do not recommend this if your router is still under warranty/support. > Adding 3rd party hardware to the box will void whatever is left. > > > Regards, > > Jeff > > > Jeff Broadwick > ImageStream > 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) > +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) > > You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :) > > On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > >> Yup... that's the one. >> >> Travis >> >> >> Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> Maybe this one? >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036 >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts." >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks guys! >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Travis Johnson >>>> To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) >>>> >>>> >>>> We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and >>>> they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom Sharples wrote: >>>> Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) , >>>> unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet >>>> cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard >>>> (e.g. 3com, intel, >>>> whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a >>>> proprietary card? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Tom S. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal. >>>> A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new. >>>> >>>> (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older >>>> model that doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.) >>>> >>>> Tom DeReggi >>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tom Sharples" <tsharp...@qorvus.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >>>> >>>> >>>> I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet >>>> expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I >>>> don't know what this model costs new with the added ports. Way more >>>> than we really need. >>>> I'm >>>> looking forward to trying it out tho. >>>> >>>> Tom S. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >>>> >>>> >>>> Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push >>>> a little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response >>>> to my emails without a phone call. >>>> >>>> On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> I really think you'll love ImageStream... >>>> I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we >>>> inherited. Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty >>>> happy. >>>> >>>> I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is >>>> currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple >>>> subnets on the same interface. The shellcmd plugin lets me have a >>>> GUI to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface >>>> configuration GUI of pfSense 1.2.3. >>>> >>>> I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the >>>> Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have >>>> to go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway >>>> newip manually. Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and >>>> can't get OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box. >>>> >>>> Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work. I don't know if that >>>> is an indication that I have bad hardware or what. Using suspect >>>> gear for your first experience with a platform is probably not the >>>> best situation for figuring out what is what. The other 4 inherited >>>> TransPorts all have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't >>>> been able to use them. I can't point to anything on the other three >>>> that screams "I'm busted." >>>> >>>> Having to reboot is really annoying. Having to use the shell to >>>> manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least >>>> they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility. >>>> >>>> The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams >>>> is, it would take me much longer to train guys to run the >>>> ImageStreams than it will take to train them to run pfSense. The >>>> secondary problem is cost : >>>> >>>> pfSense on Alix: $204 3 eth >>>> pfSense on soekris: $275-350 4 eth >>>> >>>> ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new 4 eth >>>> $600 e-bay. 3 eth >>>> >>>> We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed. >>>> More horsepower would be wasted. The BGP running pfSense box is a >>>> bit beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost as much as a >>>> new TransPort. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert >>>> <lamb...@lambertfam.org>wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 07:52:41PM -0400, Glenn Kelley wrote: >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> One limitation currently with BGP is you cannot have more than 1 >>>> peer. >>>> I am awaiting that fix myself. >>>> In the GUI anyway. >>>> >>>> 1. mount -u -w / >>>> >>>> 2. vi config file >>>> >>>> 3. 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