Nah, just $150 for a $30 power supply that's a little better than the ones in the Rebels already.....
Sorry Jeff. Don't drive to my house and stab me :D -- Adam Kennedy Network Engineer Omnicity, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) How so Brad? We sell a complete, warranted, supported product. If you want to buy the pieces/parts and build your own, that's great (and I believe that you do). How can we warrant a product when we did not put sell all the gear that went in to it? If there is a product defect, how are we supposed to know if it is our gear or 3rd party gear that caused it? Believe me, there are enough variables in the process already. ImageStream provides a year warranty and a year of support (including 24/7 emergency support) with all of our routers above the little Envoy. We offer free lifetime software upgrades. We give a 31 Day Performance Guarantee with all of our routers. Is it too much to ask that all gear in the box come from us during that period? It's not like we charge Cisco prices for RAM, NICs, power supplies, etc. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) Void the Imagestream warranty for putting the exact same card Imagestream installs is pretty chickenshit IMO. Sorry, you caught me at a bad time this morning... Brad -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) Hi All, I do not recommend this if your router is still under warranty/support. Adding 3rd party hardware to the box will void whatever is left. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :) On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > Yup... that's the one. > > Travis > > > Josh Luthman wrote: >> Maybe this one? >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036 >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts." >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Thanks guys! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Travis Johnson >>> To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List >>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) >>> >>> >>> We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and >>> they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> >>> Tom Sharples wrote: >>> Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) , >>> unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet >>> cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard >>> (e.g. 3com, intel, >>> whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a >>> proprietary card? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tom S. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >>> >>> >>> Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal. >>> A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new. >>> >>> (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older >>> model that doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.) >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tom Sharples" <tsharp...@qorvus.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >>> >>> >>> I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet >>> expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I >>> don't know what this model costs new with the added ports. Way more >>> than we really need. >>> I'm >>> looking forward to trying it out tho. >>> >>> Tom S. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >>> >>> >>> Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push >>> a little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response >>> to my emails without a phone call. >>> >>> On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> I really think you'll love ImageStream... >>> I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we >>> inherited. Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty >>> happy. >>> >>> I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is >>> currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple >>> subnets on the same interface. The shellcmd plugin lets me have a >>> GUI to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface >>> configuration GUI of pfSense 1.2.3. >>> >>> I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the >>> Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have >>> to go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway >>> newip manually. Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and >>> can't get OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box. >>> >>> Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work. I don't know if that >>> is an indication that I have bad hardware or what. Using suspect >>> gear for your first experience with a platform is probably not the >>> best situation for figuring out what is what. The other 4 inherited >>> TransPorts all have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't >>> been able to use them. I can't point to anything on the other three >>> that screams "I'm busted." >>> >>> Having to reboot is really annoying. Having to use the shell to >>> manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least >>> they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility. >>> >>> The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams >>> is, it would take me much longer to train guys to run the >>> ImageStreams than it will take to train them to run pfSense. The >>> secondary problem is cost : >>> >>> pfSense on Alix: $204 3 eth >>> pfSense on soekris: $275-350 4 eth >>> >>> ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new 4 eth >>> $600 e-bay. 3 eth >>> >>> We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed. >>> More horsepower would be wasted. The BGP running pfSense box is a >>> bit beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost as much as a >>> new TransPort. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert >>> <lamb...@lambertfam.org>wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 07:52:41PM -0400, Glenn Kelley wrote: >>> Scott >>> >>> One limitation currently with BGP is you cannot have more than 1 >>> peer. >>> I am awaiting that fix myself. >>> In the GUI anyway. >>> >>> 1. mount -u -w / >>> >>> 2. vi config file >>> >>> 3. Don't change the config in the gui again until it gets updated to >>> handle more peers. >>> >>> That's why I love pfSense, if the GUI doesn't support it, I can >>> still make it work. >>> >>> I only need one peer for now. The only reason it needs to speak BGP >>> is so I can announce a subset of our ARIN space to the transit provider. >>> >>> I've been tempted to just pkg_add quagga. But my long term goal is >>> to not be the only guy here who can manage the network. >>> >>> I love PFSENSE - Chris has done an awesome job on that project. >>> Durn tootin'. Chris and that other Scott, and Ermal and . . . >>> >>> -- >>> Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix >>> SysAdmin >>> lamb...@lambertfam.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------------ >>> WISPA Wants You! 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