Under 3mb causes alot of complaints due to repeated buffeting. 

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On Aug 31, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves <jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote:

> Why not bandwidth shape them down to something reasonable? I find
> 1.1~1.2mbit for netflix and it looks fine. they will each 5mbit if you
> let it. This keeps things pretty manageable here.b
> 
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> 
> wrote:
>> OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting.
>> 
>> Redirect "hulu.com" to....  "allowvideo.com" for $9.95 Shopping Cart item.
>> 
>> Alacart content?
>> 
>> Its no different than Microsoft Windows XP, being allowed to bundle
>> Iexplorer and MSN with WindowsOS, as long as they included signup links for
>> downloading and subscribing to NetScape and one ro two other Big Internet
>> Providers.
>> 
>> As long as its not discriminatory.... Make sure to include an Allow Item for
>> EVERY Video Provider you can think of.... Example....
>> 
>> Welcome to Allow Video.com Shopping Cart.
>> 1. Enable Hulu $9.95
>> 2. Enable NetFlix $9.95
>> 3. Enable GoogleTV $9.95
>> 4. Enable ESPN360 $9.95  (Note... would redirect to third party ISP
>> partnering with your ISP able to deliver an ESPN360 compatible IP or cached
>> data :-)
>> 5. Enable MYISP TV  (Note: charge for access to your own Video services that
>> you self host/offer, so its availble accross other ISPs also from this site,
>> and so non-discriminary)
>> 
>> Disclaimer: This site/fee allows access to reach the above video provider
>> sites. Access to enter and obtain the site's offered services and content is
>> not covered by this fee. Additional subscription fees may be required
>> directly by the Video content provider. View their sites for their fees,
>> terms and conditions..
>> 
>> So.....
>> Comcast my video access provider charges consumers $9.95 for HBO and $9.95
>> more for Showtime alacart, why cant I as the Internet Access provider charge
>> my subs the same?
>> 
>> The problem is NOT charging for content. The problem is not allowing some to
>> buy access to content. The problem is not allowing all to carry or resell
>> the content.
>> 
>> The facts are...Verizon and Comcasts wont charge for content, if we are
>> allowed to carry content and we choose to not charge for it. If we charge
>> more than the market will bear, consumers will leave us, and that keeps us
>> honeset and fair. Its already established that Consumers have been willing
>> to pay for content.
>> 
>>  If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a
>> revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-)
>> 
>> 
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
>> 
>> 
>>> Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
>> 
>> I don't think there are any laws on it at this point.  It's like
>> ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept
>> policy for those that pay.
>> 
>>> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
>> 
>> Lots of overhead, lots of DNS queries.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
>> <evdo.hs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> WAIT...
>>> 
>>> Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
>>> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <pa...@hrec.coop>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are
>>>> interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth,
>>>> but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in
>>>> places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the
>>>> internet for X number of other customers on that AP... when many other
>>>> customers on the network can use netfix with no problems.
>>>> 
>>>> We do not have an enforced overage policy, but with the increased
>>>> accounting with our PPPoE changeover, we will be able to enforce soon.
>>>> I'm not looking forward to those phone calls, but it must be done...
>>>> 
>>>> -Paul
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers
>>>>> that are abusing the service.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify
>>>>> what that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and you're
>>>>> delivering them. If you sell an "unlimited" service, them's the breaks.
>>>>> If you bill by usage, just send them their next bill showing all the
>>>>> overages they incurred, and that probably will be an effective deterrent
>>>>> all by itself. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Smith
>>>>> MVN.net
>>>>> 
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