Docsis 3 is here. Fios is not. Even though I can't compete with 50meg and 100meg, I don't yet have to. Many of my customers state that the quality of my Internet is so much better than Comcast. Obviously some people will go to them, but when it goes down and they are told it will be three days or next week before someone comes out they will come back.
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2010, at 3:41 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: > >Nobody has a free ride in this, though. Netflix/Hulu/whoever is paying TV > >and movie companies for the right to redistribute content via the Internet, > >and is paying Akamai/Limelight/whoever >for bandwidth to do the actual > >distribution. The end-user is paying Netflix for access to their collection > >of movies, and is paying you for Internet connectivity in order to receive > >bits from the >Internet (in this case, bits from Netflix). > > Sure, That is all true and relevent. BUT... The reality is that Content > providers, Consumers, and Regulators are making assumption on other people's > (access provider's) business models that they have no right to make. > > The fact is... Access Providers have provided services and priced services on > the over-subscription model since day one, and its no secret to any Internet > professional. > Content providers are building business models based on network designs that > dont yet exist large scale (super high capacity undersubscribed bandwidth), > and trying to force new rule upon Access Providers to change to a no or low > oversubscription model. And consumers are assuming that they have something > that they dont, and that was never promised to them either. That is poor > planning on the Content provider and Consumer's part, and they are trying to > hold Access Providers responsible for the content provider's poor and > unrealistic planning. > > I am NOT against content providers and consumers encouraging and driving > Access Providers to step up the game and offer higher capacities at lower > prices, and including more for the same price. That is what Market pressure > and competition is all about. What I am against is "forcing" Access > providers to do it. And I'm against the world suggesting Access Providers > some how are obligated to, or they are the bad guy. > > I think its wonderful that Netflix and hulu want to offer consumers good > value, and its nice that Money Trees are willing to join forces with these > content providers to try serve all of America over night. But what is wrong > is assuming that Access Providers, the companies that actually have to build > something of distance, should be capable of matching the growth rate to > upgrade capacity to all of America overnight. > > The NetFlix model is flawed. They build a race car without first building a > Race Track. Who's gonna be interested in building the race track, if their is > no upside offered to the builder of some sort? > > Facts are... If you want to get to places quicker, you can buy a Ferrari, but > it isn't going to solve the problem.. There is still a speed limit, to keep > it safe. There is still a HOV lane to keep down congestion, and the one man > Ferrari driver still cant use it. And there might be tolls every now and then > where needed to help pay for the mainenance of the road. The Road Owners make > the rules of the Road. > > >And I'd be fine with charging my customers one penny per bit (or buy a whole > >byte for only six cents!) but the customers probably wouldn't like that plan > >very much at all. If your users are >okay with this, go right ahead. > > That demonstrates exactly the problem. My customers would not like that for > pay method either. Nobody's customers would today, because they have been let > to believe that they are entitled to better. False misleading marketing needs > to be stopped, and consumers need to be educated. Customers "shouldn;t " have > a problem with paying for what they use. BUt they do. Why is this? They have > no problem paying for their electric, water, Soda, gas, cell phone minutes, > or whatever other product based on what they are used. But there is this HUge > hippocracy against Access Providers. > > At the end of the day, this all boils down to what over subscription rate is > fair for a Access Provider to deliver, and still advertise their product as a > given speed bandwidth. > And again, this really is a decission for the Access PRovider that has stats > and costs for its own operations, which is confidential information. > > Sure, I agree, Cable and FIOS are around the corner, and if we (competitive > access providers) dont adapt and upgrade, we will be left behind. > But... I'll leave with one critical point...... > > How do we accomplish upgrading and adapting in the faster possible way? With > Money, right? How do we get money? We need to raise the funds to make these > upgrades sooner than later. I see two low hanging fruit sources to put up > this money.... Consumers that can save money by using our service and Content > providers paying their share, now when we still have leverage to encourage > them to pony up the cash to fund the upgrades. > > I know what happens when Docsis3 and FIOS come, and the WISP network is NOT > yet upgraded. It means lost customers. I wish I could upgrade everything over > night, but I cant, not without money. But the more I charge today, the bigger > chance I have to earn more money to re-invest, so I'm in a stronger position > to compete when Docsis3 and FIOS come. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David E. Smith > To: WISPA General List > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:20, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: > Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so > that it can be re-invested into my network once again, so Hulu and NetFlix > can continue to get rich? > > If you want to keep residential customers in a competitive market, yeah, > you're gonna have to ease back on the profit-taking and build out your > network. > > (I noted that you said you primarily serve business customers, so keep in > mind that "you" is the generic ISP, not you personally.) > > > I am sick and tired of this attitude that "consumers are entitled" and > "content providers are entitled". They are not entitled to a free ride. > > Nobody has a free ride in this, though. Netflix/Hulu/whoever is paying TV and > movie companies for the right to redistribute content via the Internet, and > is paying Akamai/Limelight/whoever for bandwidth to do the actual > distribution. The end-user is paying Netflix for access to their collection > of movies, and is paying you for Internet connectivity in order to receive > bits from the Internet (in this case, bits from Netflix). > > > Sure... I'm perfectly fine with the bandwdith management method of control. > Bandwdith limit video web sites to 64kbps, and for $9.95 I'll bump it up to > 1mbps. > > And I'd be fine with charging my customers one penny per bit (or buy a whole > byte for only six cents!) but the customers probably wouldn't like that plan > very much at all. If your users are okay with this, go right ahead. > > Whats important to me is that laws are not made that empower moochers to > have the right to unlimited mooching, at the expense of honorable > businessmen access providers. > > > Who, in this scenario, is mooching? > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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