Good idea.

All my models fail. I simply can't charge enough to justify it. The  
lack of spectrum is the limiter.

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:19 PM, "Tom DeReggi"  
<wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote:

> OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting.
>
> Redirect "hulu.com" to....  "allowvideo.com" for $9.95 Shopping Cart  
> item.
>
> Alacart content?
>
> Its no different than Microsoft Windows XP, being allowed to bundle
> Iexplorer and MSN with WindowsOS, as long as they included signup  
> links for
> downloading and subscribing to NetScape and one ro two other Big  
> Internet
> Providers.
>
> As long as its not discriminatory.... Make sure to include an Allow  
> Item for
> EVERY Video Provider you can think of.... Example....
>
> Welcome to Allow Video.com Shopping Cart.
> 1. Enable Hulu $9.95
> 2. Enable NetFlix $9.95
> 3. Enable GoogleTV $9.95
> 4. Enable ESPN360 $9.95  (Note... would redirect to third party ISP
> partnering with your ISP able to deliver an ESPN360 compatible IP or  
> cached
> data :-)
> 5. Enable MYISP TV  (Note: charge for access to your own Video  
> services that
> you self host/offer, so its availble accross other ISPs also from  
> this site,
> and so non-discriminary)
>
> Disclaimer: This site/fee allows access to reach the above video  
> provider
> sites. Access to enter and obtain the site's offered services and  
> content is
> not covered by this fee. Additional subscription fees may be required
> directly by the Video content provider. View their sites for their  
> fees,
> terms and conditions..
>
> So.....
> Comcast my video access provider charges consumers $9.95 for HBO and  
> $9.95
> more for Showtime alacart, why cant I as the Internet Access  
> provider charge
> my subs the same?
>
> The problem is NOT charging for content. The problem is not allowing  
> some to
> buy access to content. The problem is not allowing all to carry or  
> resell
> the content.
>
> The facts are...Verizon and Comcasts wont charge for content, if we  
> are
> allowed to carry content and we choose to not charge for it. If we  
> charge
> more than the market will bear, consumers will leave us, and that  
> keeps us
> honeset and fair. Its already established that Consumers have been  
> willing
> to pay for content.
>
> If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a
> revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-)
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
>
>
>> Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
>
> I don't think there are any laws on it at this point.  It's like
> ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept
> policy for those that pay.
>
>> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
>
> Lots of overhead, lots of DNS queries.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
> <evdo.hs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> WAIT...
>>
>> Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
>> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger  
>> <pa...@hrec.coop>
>> wrote:
>>> Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are
>>> interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream  
>>> bandwidth,
>>> but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in
>>> places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the
>>> internet for X number of other customers on that AP... when many  
>>> other
>>> customers on the network can use netfix with no problems.
>>>
>>> We do not have an enforced overage policy, but with the increased
>>> accounting with our PPPoE changeover, we will be able to enforce  
>>> soon.
>>> I'm not looking forward to those phone calls, but it must be done...
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the cu 
>>>> stomers
>>>> that are abusing the service.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to  
>>>> clarify
>>>> what that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and  
>>>> you're
>>>> delivering them. If you sell an "unlimited" service, them's the  
>>>> breaks.
>>>> If you bill by usage, just send them their next bill showing all  
>>>> the
>>>> overages they incurred, and that probably will be an effective  
>>>> deterrent
>>>> all by itself. :)
>>>>
>>>> David Smith
>>>> MVN.net
>>>>
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