I meant to say this comment referred to hulu not netflix Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Jason Bailey <j284...@yahoo.com> wrote: > My customers that run 1Mb down use it and have no trouble?Excessive > bursting,then throttling will cause rebuffering after initial burst i have > found. > > --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism <jchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jeremie Chism <jchi...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:09 PM > > Under 3mb causes alot of complaints due to repeated buffeting. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 31, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves <jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: > > > Why not bandwidth shape them down to something reasonable? I find > > 1.1~1.2mbit for netflix and it looks fine. they will each 5mbit if you > > let it. This keeps things pretty manageable here.b > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> > > wrote: > >> OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting. > >> > >> Redirect "hulu.com" to.... "allowvideo.com" for $9.95 Shopping Cart item. > >> > >> Alacart content? > >> > >> Its no different than Microsoft Windows XP, being allowed to bundle > >> Iexplorer and MSN with WindowsOS, as long as they included signup links for > >> downloading and subscribing to NetScape and one ro two other Big Internet > >> Providers. > >> > >> As long as its not discriminatory.... Make sure to include an Allow Item > >> for > >> EVERY Video Provider you can think of.... Example.... > >> > >> Welcome to Allow Video.com Shopping Cart. > >> 1. Enable Hulu $9.95 > >> 2. Enable NetFlix $9.95 > >> 3. Enable GoogleTV $9.95 > >> 4. Enable ESPN360 $9.95 (Note... would redirect to third party ISP > >> partnering with your ISP able to deliver an ESPN360 compatible IP or cached > >> data :-) > >> 5. Enable MYISP TV (Note: charge for access to your own Video services > >> that > >> you self host/offer, so its availble accross other ISPs also from this > >> site, > >> and so non-discriminary) > >> > >> Disclaimer: This site/fee allows access to reach the above video provider > >> sites. Access to enter and obtain the site's offered services and content > >> is > >> not covered by this fee. Additional subscription fees may be required > >> directly by the Video content provider. View their sites for their fees, > >> terms and conditions.. > >> > >> So..... > >> Comcast my video access provider charges consumers $9.95 for HBO and $9.95 > >> more for Showtime alacart, why cant I as the Internet Access provider > >> charge > >> my subs the same? > >> > >> The problem is NOT charging for content. The problem is not allowing some > >> to > >> buy access to content. The problem is not allowing all to carry or resell > >> the content. > >> > >> The facts are...Verizon and Comcasts wont charge for content, if we are > >> allowed to carry content and we choose to not charge for it. If we charge > >> more than the market will bear, consumers will leave us, and that keeps us > >> honeset and fair. Its already established that Consumers have been willing > >> to pay for content. > >> > >> If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a > >> revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-) > >> > >> > >> Tom DeReggi > >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > >> > >> > >>> Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? > >> > >> I don't think there are any laws on it at this point. It's like > >> ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept > >> policy for those that pay. > >> > >>> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? > >> > >> Lots of overhead, lots of DNS queries. > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > >> <evdo.hs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> WAIT... > >>> > >>> Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? > >>> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <pa...@hrec.coop> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are > >>>> interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, > >>>> but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in > >>>> places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the > >>>> internet for X number of other customers on that AP... when many other > >>>> customers on the network can use netfix with no problems. > >>>> > >>>> We do not have an enforced overage policy, but with the increased > >>>> accounting with our PPPoE changeover, we will be able to enforce soon. > >>>> I'm not looking forward to those phone calls, but it must be done... > >>>> > >>>> -Paul > >>>> > >>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, David E. Smith wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers > >>>>> that are abusing the service. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify > >>>>> what that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and you're > >>>>> delivering them. If you sell an "unlimited" service, them's the breaks. > >>>>> If you bill by usage, just send them their next bill showing all the > >>>>> overages they incurred, and that probably will be an effective deterrent > >>>>> all by itself. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> David Smith > >>>>> MVN.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>>> > >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>>> > >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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