Nothing personal here...
I have yet to see some 'constructive' discussion from Mark about how to
influence the outcome of such regulations... I am not in favor of the
regulation... but ours would not be the first Independent Business to be
'Regulated' in some form or another.. (Food business is regulated,
Medial Business is regulated, Fuel Business is regulated etc. etc. etc..)
On one side when larger companies in an industry start to flex their
muscles, and start playing arrogant, that simply invites Regulation...
but then again we all behave similar in our own play pens as well... but
it is just that we are small and thus don't hit the regulators radar
screen..
You have to actively Participate in the rule making process, otherwise
live be the rules made by others. A boycott, or total anti gov. attitude
is simply going to increase your stress level and accomplish nothing.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet& Telecom
On 12/21/2010 12:42 AM, RickG wrote:
Faisal, with all due respect, (and you know I do) - Mark is right. We
are not phone companys. We are PRIVATE, independent companys
with volunteer subscribers. Are you saying we have already lost? The
fact that we are even having to have this conversation in "the land of
the free" is sad.
BTW: I dont read Mark's post as a tantrum. It's hard for anyone to
comment on negative news in a positive light.
P.S. It looks like Bell fared well against governmetn lawsuits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Graham_Bell
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net
<mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
'Dude'... get a grip.. get out of this business, get some sanity into
your life... this kind of stress is not good...
Just imagine how Alexander Graham Bell felt when the Gov. decided to
regulate the Phone Company !
Fact of life... when a service starts to become a crucial /
critical for
the general population... the Gov. (anywhere in the world) will
start to
regulate it...
Don't be surprised if tomorrow's Internet, gets to be like a utility !
(Electricity ?) ...
Get a grip, you don't have to like the rules, but realize you are
not in
position to make the rules, just play by them...or not !
Don't like it.. go do something else... Throwing tantrums will not
make
a difference...
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet& Telecom
On 12/20/2010 8:36 PM, MDK wrote:
> I am opposed to ALL aspects, period. Nothing is broken such
that it needs
> the atomic bomb of government to fix it.
>
> This is a fix in desperate search of a "broken" and the closest
thing to a
> "broken" they can find is a hypothetical that isn't a disaster
in the first
> place.
>
>
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jeromie Reeves"<jree...@18-30chat.net
<mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net>>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:56 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
>
>> While I do agree with the idea that we need less regulation of
(fixed)
>> wireless and a lower barrier to entry for cellular wireless, I
would
>> like to knwo what parts of this particular proposal you have a
issue
>> with. I, personally, would love to see the layer 1 and layer 2+ be
>> forcably broken apart for wired isps (IE, if you are a ILEC,
you must
>> have a separate business entity run the 2+, with set prices for
>> everyone who wants to be a layer 2+ entity on that layer 1 network)
>> with wireless getting a mix of this (unlicensed is not bound to
layer
>> 1/2+ split, with some licensed being (like cellular) and some
licensed
>> not being bound (like 3.65, sub 700) and opening more spectrum
(that
>> is a mix of bound and non-bound) and see where that takes us.
Time to
>> wake up and go pickup the kids.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:30 PM, MDK<rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
<mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>> wrote:
>>> No, we LOST. You see, once they have the power, they have
the power.
>>> It
>>> is not a victory to be partially regulated, or to get "partial
>>> exemption".
>>>
>>> I cannot imagine why industry is rolling over and playing dead
for this.
>>>
>>> As far as I’m concerned it's "come and arrest me, coppers" and
I will
>>> damn
>>> well NOT comply.
>>>
>>> And if we all did that. They'd just give up. But we're too
chicken to
>>> stand up for ourselves, as a country, anymore, apparently. I
don't know
>>> when people forgot that according to the Constitution, we tell the
>>> government what to do and where to get off, not the other way
around.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> From: Joe Fiero
>>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:12 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
>>>
>>> It’s good to see all our efforts pay off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> REUTERS updated 2 minutes ago 2010-12-20T21:45:55
>>>
>>> WASHINGTON — The Federal Communications Commission is expected
to adopt
>>> Internet traffic rules on Tuesday that would ban the blocking
of lawful
>>> content, but allow high-speed Internet providers to manage their
>>> networks,
>>> senior agency officials said Monday.
>>>
>>> Commissioners Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn had expressed
concerns
>>> with
>>> the proposal laid out by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski early
this
>>> month,
>>> but senior FCC officials said they had come to an agreement
and are
>>> expected
>>> to vote in favor of the rules.
>>>
>>> Genachowski proposed banning the blocking of lawful traffic
but allowing
>>> Internet providers to manage network congestion and charge
consumers
>>> based
>>> on Internet usage.
>>>
>>> The rules would be more flexible for wireless broadband,
Genachowski said
>>> in
>>> a previous speech, acknowledging that wireless is at an
earlier stage of
>>> development than terrestrial Internet service.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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