Normally I don't open a message from MDK for fear of witnessing what I have become accustomed to. It took me a few days to do it, but I did open this thread. And I have to say I don't mind reading it. I may not agree with anything or agree with part, but the point is that I don't mind reading this, whereas I did in the past.

For that effort, I say "well done" Mark. You've found a way to get your points across without clouding the issue with anti-government opinions.

Now pay the fee & join WISPA and help make change... Those of us who do would appreciate that (money where the mouth is, that kind of thing).

On 12/23/2010 11:19 AM, MDK wrote:
That was the camel's nose in the tent, so to speak.
NN and content regulation is merely some more of the camel through the door and in the tent with you. Rate or price controls, coverage requirements, bandwidth specifications, and so on would be the rest of the camel in the tent. At that point, you don't control your own network, prices, or service. You merely manage a utility that's either going to be the surviving monopoly or go under, as the regulators continue to raise your costs by demanding more from you, while regulating your revenues. If you don't think they'll do that, please research "obamacare" where in a short period of time, insurers are allowed to: Sign people up. They will not be able to set their own rates, design their own product, or benefit from efficient operations - as required ratio of incoming to outgoing dollars is specified. I'll bet some of you even thought it was a good idea at the time, as long as it's not YOUR business.
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*From:* RickG <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>
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Yes, by the fact that a private person doing business is forced to report anything to the government is wrong. It breaks the trues spirit of capitalism & freedom that this country was founded upon. Sorry to sound extreme but what will they force us to do next?

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

    I don't think form 477 has anything to do with breaking anything.

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    Intelligent Computing Solutions
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    On 12/22/2010 12:44 AM, RickG wrote:
    The first step to breaking the net was form 477.

    On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
    <mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>> wrote:


        The whole problem was creating monopolies in the first place,
        and then
        pretending you can "fix" what you broke by half-baked notions
        of government
        created markets...

        There is NOTHING broke about 'internet' because it hasn't
        been regulated.

        Your issue is nothing but a complaint about the results of
        what should never
        have been done in the first place.



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        Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:56 PM
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        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless

        > Well, no, what IS PROFOUNDLY BROKEN is that the ILECs are
        no longer
        > required to be common carriers.  They built their network using
        > common carrier privileges.  They got their market share
        using common
        > carrier privileges.  And then they turned  around and got their
        > common carrier obligations lifted by the profoundly corrupt
        > Cheney-Rove FCC.  So now they control the content on their
        wires, and
        > you can't lease them.  That's just wrong.  And the
        Genachowski FCC
        > isn't doing squat about that, though they absolutely have
        the power
        > to do so.  We do need a national common carrier utility.
         There is a
        > clear distinction between carriage and content. ISPs are
        content, not
        > carriage.  And WISPs are self-provisioned ISPs who deliver
        content
        > over unlicensed facilities without using a carrier, and
        without being one.

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        >
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