In my experience, definitely go hardware RAID.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 7/25/2011 3:35 PM, Matt wrote:
>> I am going to throw my 2 cents in.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Nick W<lists-wi...@atomsplash.com>  wrote:
>>> I've been experimenting with both the last 2 weeks. I've read that VMWare
>>> will have a 16GB limitation in it's next free version, which is pushing me
>>> to Xen/XenServer. Just ordered parts for iSCSI SAN.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Josh Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Xen and Vmware are pretty good.  I would not suggest using a Linux distro
>>>> and would go with a bare metal (vsphere, xen's alternative)
>>>>
>> FOSS virt stuff has come a long way since I first started using it 5
>> years ago. There a couple FOSS projects that I recommend  to try out.
>>
>> The first and most mature is called Proxmox VE
>> (http://www.proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve) it is a bare metal Linux
>> distribution that can be installed on most any server supporting Intel
>> or AMD virtualzation instructions (most do). Proxmox is a Debian based
>> distro so anything you can do with Debian can be done with Proxmox.
>> This has lead to some cool things in terms of HA and replication that
>> the community has built. The Proxmox feature set is not to bad, it is
>> no Vmware enterprise plus but does the job. It is in active
>> development has a nice easy to use web interface and supports
>> clustering. Future releases (like the upcoming 2.0 release) will
>> include things like HA out of the box.
>>
>> The second project is called OpenNode (http://opennode.activesys.org/)
>> is similar to Proxmox in a few ways. OpenNode like Proxmox can do both
>> OpenVZ and KVM. It is a CentOS based hypervisor and can be clustered.
>> It is younger that Proxmox and the out of the box feature set is less.
>> I however like how easy it is to customize and script various common
>> tasks. It follows the standard way of doing things in Linux better
>> than Proxmox does (IMHO) and is also lighter weight, I install the OS
>> on flash based disks so space is a premium for me. It also will allow
>> you to take a generic CentOS install and convert it to a OpenNode
>> member easily.
>>
>> Both can use iSCSI or other type of shared storage for VM's, I have
>> had great success with using iSCSI with both distributions, NFS not as
>> much but that was do to some implementation stuff.
>>
>> As with anything I recommend you test stuff out and see what fits your
>> environment best. That being said either of those projects will get
>> you up and running fast with a minimal learning curve.
>>
>>
>> I can answer more questions if you have them.
> Good info, thanks.  If I go with Proxmox can I later switch to
> Opennode by simply copying my virtual machines over to Opennode?  Is
> OpenVZ preferred over KVM for linux applications that do not care
> about the shared kernel?
>
> Initially I am just thinking a dual or quad core socket 1156 processor
> with say 8 to 16G of RAM and a few terrabytes of disk in software
> RAID1.  I am assuming the nice thing about containers is I can easily
> move everything down the road to better/faster hardware?
>
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