Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins <m...@smarterbroadband.net>wrote:

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> Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency
> which they pay a premium for.
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> On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote:
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> What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection
> using one of those 1"x3" USB things?
>
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> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
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>> None that I know of.  Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange.
>> That model doesn't seem to financially or operationally/technically work.
>>
>> Most if not all the Wisps here install equipment on vertical space (grain
>> leg, building, tower) and install a CPE on the customer roof.  From the CPE
>> side, a lot like satellite.  Low profile but it is there.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  On Nov 28, 2011 7:40 PM, "Rich _" <rich.ema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using something
>>> other than a WISP?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rich,
>>>> Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of
>>>> reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you will
>>>> be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install.  Trust me, there
>>>> are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that one out
>>>> since this industry started.
>>>>
>>>> As Jay mentioned, Clearwire is probably the closest business model to
>>>> what you are looking for, and even with their deep pockets and licensed
>>>> spectrum they are having a tough time making it work.  And I think it is
>>>> precisely because they are choosing to go the route that you are looking
>>>> for.
>>>>
>>>> If they took their spectrum and equipment and used it as traditional,
>>>> professionally installed fixed wireless setup they would probably have a
>>>> working business model.  Sure their return on investment would be higher
>>>> due to the installer cost, but if they took a dish-network model to
>>>> getting installs done they would only be looking at 3-6 months break
>>>> even on the install cost and considering the amount of money that has
>>>> already been poured into the business I would think that would be a drop
>>>> in the bucket.
>>>>
>>>> Rich _ wrote:
>>>> > Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA.
>>>> >
>>>> > But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located.
>>>> > I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the
>>>> > business.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A technical
>>>> > partner or technical contractor/employee would be needed. I hope
>>>> > available equipment is quite stable and reliable?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net
>>>> > <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Hi Rich,
>>>> >     WISPA General List is actually a Global List.
>>>> >     It would go a long ways for relevant folks to reply back to you if
>>>> >     you at least share what part of the world ? / State or City if in
>>>> >     the US.
>>>> >
>>>> >     My personal reaction after reading the first two paragraphs was to
>>>> >     suggest that you should consider some other business other than
>>>> >     being a WISP.
>>>> >
>>>> >     However after reading the last two paragraphs, it sounds like you
>>>> >     may be the Business / Funding guy, looking for a Technical Partner
>>>> >     to build a business together.
>>>> >
>>>> >     The only reason I am saying this is because this is a tough
>>>> >     business to be in if you are not going to roll up your sleeves and
>>>> >     get your hands dirty.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     Regards and Good Luck.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> >     Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> >     7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> >     Miami, Fl 33155
>>>> >     Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>> >     Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 <tel:305%20663%205518> option 2 Email:
>>>> supp...@snappydsl.net <mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net>
>>>>  >
>>>> >
>>>> >     On 11/28/2011 6:33 PM, Rich _ wrote:
>>>> >>     Hello,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     I operate in the custom software development industry and am
>>>> >>     considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I
>>>> >>     know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of
>>>> >>     you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll be
>>>> >>     glad to answer any software development questions you may have
>>>> >>     that I can answer or that I can get an answer for.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     I'm a business person. I'm not interested in learning the
>>>> >>     low-level details about wireless hardware or protocals above and
>>>> >>     beyond what I need to run the business. I have no desire to ever
>>>> >>     install/troubleshoot/repair the equipment myself.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     What I want to do is own the service and run the business. My
>>>> >>     first thoughts are I want a setup that makes it easiest for the
>>>> >>     customer to start using the service. If there is a particular
>>>> >>     hardware setup that lets me mail a dongle (small device that
>>>> >>     would plug into a USB port) to the customer and viola they're up
>>>> >>     and running, great! Also, I am wondering if operating in a
>>>> >>     licensed spectrum will provide me with some protection from
>>>> >>     frequency overload.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     I am interested in finding people who may be able to help me
>>>> >>     analyze a territory for potential profitability and engineer a
>>>> >>     setup. So, if it doesn't violate mailing list rules, feel free to
>>>> >>     respond with your contact information so that I can contact you
>>>> >>     to find out what it would cost for your services.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     I know I have a lot to learn and want to stick with high-level
>>>> >>     information so that I can quickly determine if this is a good
>>>> >>     opportunity for me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Rich
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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