I am curious if any one of the users here have any frequency deployed.  I
know Jay has some in Alabama.

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On Nov 28, 2011 8:18 PM, "Rich _" <rich.ema...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies?
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins 
> <m...@smarterbroadband.net>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency
>> which they pay a premium for.
>>
>> On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote:
>>
>> What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection
>> using one of those 1"x3" USB things?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> None that I know of.  Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange.
>>> That model doesn't seem to financially or operationally/technically work.
>>>
>>> Most if not all the Wisps here install equipment on vertical space
>>> (grain leg, building, tower) and install a CPE on the customer roof.  From
>>> the CPE side, a lot like satellite.  Low profile but it is there.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>>  On Nov 28, 2011 7:40 PM, "Rich _" <rich.ema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using something
>>>> other than a WISP?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rich,
>>>>> Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of
>>>>> reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you will
>>>>> be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install.  Trust me,
>>>>> there
>>>>> are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that one
>>>>> out
>>>>> since this industry started.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Jay mentioned, Clearwire is probably the closest business model to
>>>>> what you are looking for, and even with their deep pockets and licensed
>>>>> spectrum they are having a tough time making it work.  And I think it
>>>>> is
>>>>> precisely because they are choosing to go the route that you are
>>>>> looking
>>>>> for.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they took their spectrum and equipment and used it as traditional,
>>>>> professionally installed fixed wireless setup they would probably have
>>>>> a
>>>>> working business model.  Sure their return on investment would be
>>>>> higher
>>>>> due to the installer cost, but if they took a dish-network model to
>>>>> getting installs done they would only be looking at 3-6 months break
>>>>> even on the install cost and considering the amount of money that has
>>>>> already been poured into the business I would think that would be a
>>>>> drop
>>>>> in the bucket.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich _ wrote:
>>>>> > Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm
>>>>> located.
>>>>> > I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for
>>>>> the
>>>>> > business.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A technical
>>>>> > partner or technical contractor/employee would be needed. I hope
>>>>> > available equipment is quite stable and reliable?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net
>>>>> > <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Hi Rich,
>>>>> >     WISPA General List is actually a Global List.
>>>>> >     It would go a long ways for relevant folks to reply back to you
>>>>> if
>>>>> >     you at least share what part of the world ? / State or City if in
>>>>> >     the US.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     My personal reaction after reading the first two paragraphs was
>>>>> to
>>>>> >     suggest that you should consider some other business other than
>>>>> >     being a WISP.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     However after reading the last two paragraphs, it sounds like you
>>>>> >     may be the Business / Funding guy, looking for a Technical
>>>>> Partner
>>>>> >     to build a business together.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     The only reason I am saying this is because this is a tough
>>>>> >     business to be in if you are not going to roll up your sleeves
>>>>> and
>>>>> >     get your hands dirty.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Regards and Good Luck.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> >     Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> >     7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> >     Miami, Fl 33155
>>>>> >     Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>>> >     Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 <tel:305%20663%205518> option 2 Email:
>>>>> supp...@snappydsl.net <mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net>
>>>>>  >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     On 11/28/2011 6:33 PM, Rich _ wrote:
>>>>> >>     Hello,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     I operate in the custom software development industry and am
>>>>> >>     considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I
>>>>> >>     know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of
>>>>> >>     you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll be
>>>>> >>     glad to answer any software development questions you may have
>>>>> >>     that I can answer or that I can get an answer for.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     I'm a business person. I'm not interested in learning the
>>>>> >>     low-level details about wireless hardware or protocals above and
>>>>> >>     beyond what I need to run the business. I have no desire to ever
>>>>> >>     install/troubleshoot/repair the equipment myself.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     What I want to do is own the service and run the business. My
>>>>> >>     first thoughts are I want a setup that makes it easiest for the
>>>>> >>     customer to start using the service. If there is a particular
>>>>> >>     hardware setup that lets me mail a dongle (small device that
>>>>> >>     would plug into a USB port) to the customer and viola they're up
>>>>> >>     and running, great! Also, I am wondering if operating in a
>>>>> >>     licensed spectrum will provide me with some protection from
>>>>> >>     frequency overload.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     I am interested in finding people who may be able to help me
>>>>> >>     analyze a territory for potential profitability and engineer a
>>>>> >>     setup. So, if it doesn't violate mailing list rules, feel free
>>>>> to
>>>>> >>     respond with your contact information so that I can contact you
>>>>> >>     to find out what it would cost for your services.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     I know I have a lot to learn and want to stick with high-level
>>>>> >>     information so that I can quickly determine if this is a good
>>>>> >>     opportunity for me.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Thanks,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Rich
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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