It can be done with Mk and Canopy, both support qinq Sent from a Apple Newton
On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:29 AM, "Tim Densmore" <tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com> wrote: > Hi Fred, > > I think a lot of the confusion here comes from the fact that you're > using generic terms like "switching" and "VLAN" to describe complex > Metro-E/Carrier-E scenarios. Standard VLANs break up broadcast domains, > but they don't create virtual circuits or provide total isolation - this > is one of the reasons I initially asked what you were describing. > Metro-e q-in-q with stag/ctag UNIs and EVCs behave much differently than > standard packet switched ethernet "dot1q" VLANs in that regard. I'd > reference the different metro-e IEEE standards if I were smart enough to > keep them all in my head or unlazy enough to look them up. > > Tons of info available at metroethernetforum.org for folks who are > trying to figure out what I'm talking about. > > I'd be extremely impressed to learn that you could do a decent metro-e > roll-out with ubnt and mt. In the WISP world, I'd expect single-tagged > dot1q VLANs to be enough to differentiate customer traffic, even in > large-ish MPOP scenarios. How many POPs generally hang off a single > network segment before hitting a router? > > Thanks for the interesting discussion! > > TD > > On 10/12/2012 10:14 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: >> I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. It is allowing only >> the VLAN to go from A to B, while nothing else goes to A or B, and the >> VLAN is invisible to everyone else. Which is really virtual circuit >> behavior; VLAN is the legacy name of the VC ID. >> >> In CE switching, then, the VLAN receives no broadcasts from anyone >> else on the switch or network, and sends no broadcasts outside. What >> goes onto that mapped port, or onto a VLAN pre-tagged to go to that >> port, is totally and completely invisible to all other users. So it's >> secure enough for public safety use on a shared PMD. This is >> different from a bridge, where broadcasts go everywhere. One type of >> MEF service (EP-LAN) does actually emulate a LAN with >2 ports and >> broadcasts among them, but the more common EPL and EVPL would not know >> a broadcast frame from anything else, since they just pass the MAC >> addresses transparently. > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless