Thanks Patrick!  Good to see you back in the industry.  Been a while...

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@alvarion.com>wrote:

> Considering Ben is working hard all Saturday wading into the dialogue
> deeply implies UBNT takes this seriously and cares. That alone says much.
> Props to Ben from a fellow vendor.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 3, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Rick Harnish" <rharn...@wispa.org> wrote:
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> I have been in contact with Ben through several emails.  I am confident
> that they are doing their best to address these issues.  This is not the
> type of thing WISPA should be focusing on anyways.  ****
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> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org<members-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:59 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???****
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> A good example of a good company trying to do a good thing and failing at
> it. Maybe because it is outside of their core competence. No good deed goes
> unpunished.
> Ben could answer but my bet is that they wanted to come out with the cable
> to help their customers with a perceived issue. That issue being quality
> cable at a reasonable price. I doubt Ubiquity thought they were going to
> make a mint off of cable margins.
>
> I would rather see a company like ubiquity focus on their main business
> and churn out great products on a reliable ship schedule than get
> distracted by fringe lines. Of course all of this is easy to say in the
> middle of a storm. I would likely be praising them and their cable if there
> weren't so many issues. I am just glad I didn't buy much of it.
>
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> On 11/3/2012 11:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:****
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> Hi Rick, ****
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> I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was tested thoroughly
> prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed all
> testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not have the same quality as
> the cable that was tested/passed testing.  We have corrected this and moved
> away from the vendor that caused these issues.  The new cable has not had
> any issues.****
>
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> As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced problems with
> the cable.  Please contact us directly.****
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> Thanks,****
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> Ben  ****
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> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish <rharn...@wispa.org> wrote:**
> **
>
> I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
> Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
> addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
> and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
> developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
> Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
> interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
> whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
> cable will be shipped.  ****
>
>  ****
>
> It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be avoided.
> Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for all.  I
> will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further steps.***
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> > -----Original Message-----****
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> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On*
> ***
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> > Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco****
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> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM****
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> > To: WISPA General List****
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???****
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> > ****
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> > Hi all****
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> > ****
>
> > any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new "TOUGHCable
> CARRIER"****
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> > ?****
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> > ****
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> > Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?****
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> > ****
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> > It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
> the service****
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> > interruption****
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> > ****
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> > Thank you****
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> > ****
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> > > I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent****
>
> > > with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket***
> *
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> > > has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and***
> *
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> > > hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost*
> ***
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> > > like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,*
> ***
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> > > the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new***
> *
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> > > install for the customer, except the roof tripod.****
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> > >****
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> > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com>***
> *
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> > wrote:****
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> > >> Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just
> ****
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> > >> appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried****
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> > >> because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our****
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> > >> customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.****
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> > >>****
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> > >> Tom S.****
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> > >>****
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> > >> ----- Original Message -----****
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> > >> From: "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com>****
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> > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>****
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> > >> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM****
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> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???****
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> > >>****
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> > >>****
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> > >>> I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.**
> **
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> > >>> I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want**
> **
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> > >>> any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have***
> *
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> > >>> them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would*
> ***
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> > >>> ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.****
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> > >>>****
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> > >>> Steve Barnes****
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> > >>>****
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> > >>> -----Original Message-----****
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> > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> > >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> ]****
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> > >>> On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves****
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> > >>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM****
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> > >>> To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List****
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> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???****
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> > >>>****
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> > >>> Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with
> ****
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> > >>> dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We***
> *
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> > >>> used the cable in short runs <15ft, and are finding more and more***
> *
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> > >>> places it was used as those sites fail.****
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> > >>>****
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> > >>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco****
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> > >>> <paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:****
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> > >>>> Hi All,****
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> > >>>>****
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> > >>>> it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some****
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> > >>>> time ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.
> ****
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> > >>>>****
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> > >>>> It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the**
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> > >>>> same site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...****
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> > >>>>****
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> > >>>> Any comment?****
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> > >>>>****
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> > >>>> Thank you****
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> > >>>>****
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