Please provide something useful to the conversation. 

What was the environment you were using it in? What antennas were you using? 
What radios were you using? What distances were you going? What were the signal 
levels, noise levels, channel sizes, desired throughput, achieved throughput, 
etc.? 




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From: "TJ Trout" <t...@fdisturlock.com> 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas 


Ubnt 900 is a joke 
On Aug 22, 2013 7:43 AM, "Coenraad Loubser" < coenr...@wish.org.za > wrote: 





Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's not even an April fools joke. 
http://www.google.com/loon/ 

Maybe if you can get hold of a human at Google you could interest them in 
running a trial with you... 





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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>
Well the one I remember is Canopy and Ubnt on the same tower, both 
900. The Canopy would rx more than enough to work while Ubnt wouldn't 
hear the AP at all. Moving around the trees (similar distance from 
the tower) the signal would appear strong. 


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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 
> Almost every time someone has detailed their installations to me, there just 
> isn't enough signal to do anything. They're getting a -76 and wondering why 
> it doesn't work. Increase that another 15 dB and try again. The Canopy will 
> work a little better because it requires less signal, but it also has 
> nowhere near the same throughput, so they're really apples and oranges. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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> 
> ________________________________ 
> From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
> 
> To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:20:24 AM 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas 
> 
> Ubnt 900 apparently has extremely poor nlos for 900 MHz. I've heard 
> this a handful of people but haven't tried it myself. 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
> wrote: 
>> How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz 
>> system was junk had a poor RF environment. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> ________________________________ 
>> From: "Erik Anderson" < erik.ander...@hocking.net > 
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>> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas 
>> 
>> 98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their 
>> other 
>> products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better. 
>> Out limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these 
>> technologies have very low bandwidth. 
>> 
>> On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: 
>> 
>> What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used 
>> both 
>> Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just 
>> put 
>> up a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards 
>> the 
>> UBNT solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really 
>> satisfied 
>> with. 
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