They are not trying to penetrate indoors. That is where their SMB team rolls in and installs indoor APs for free.
On Friday, November 15, 2013, ralph wrote: > They will not be using CPEs (repeaters) as far as I know. It already > penetrates pretty well indoors. (2.4, remember?) It just doesn’t doo well > above the 2nd or 3rd floor. > > > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > [mailto:[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>] > *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson (airCloud) > *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2013 11:51 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > > > They are doing exactly what airCloud is doing for Muni WiFi. Put up AP's > that cover 90% outside. Put $100 repeaters in the window as needed. > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We can only hope for A/C 80MHz channels to spread the signal way out.... > but also pollute more. > > The ridiculous thing is 5GHz doesn't go through buildings... what is > Comcast attempting to do here? > > > > Matt Hoppes > Director of Information Technology > Indigo Wireless > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > On 11/15/13, 11:46 AM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) wrote: > > Having had the privilege of living through PG&E's rollout of 900MHz > > smart meters we will be impacted, it's just hard to say how much. > > > > The PG&E smart meters were essentially unity gain at full power. When it > > got into the 10's of thousands the AP saw -60dB across the board at 10 > > miles from the nearest smart meter. With 5GHz, we have a much higher FSL > > and there will not be nearly as many withing a given sector. > > > > Making a few assumptions here: > > Pole AP is 27dB into a 6dB omni at 30' off the ground > > WISP sector antenna is 17dB at 200' off the ground > > At 1 mile the WISP AP is going to see ~60dB. > > > > If comcast does succeed in getting more 5GHz spectrum, it will be good > > for us as well as it will spread the noise out a bit lowering overall > noise. > > > > Better come up with a plan now as we will be affected. Comcast, like > > PG&E is going to tell you they are in compliance and to call their > lawyers > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Right... I as well.. that's why I don't know what the answer is. > > Everyone's in this game, but some just play (seemingly) unfair... for > > example, it doesn't help anyone when you just go throwing up APs on > > cable plants and blasting all over the town. > > > > On the other hand Comcast may say it doesn't make sence for you (the > > WISP) to go sticking these high gain antennas up on the tower and > > covering the town! > > > > > > Matt Hoppes > > Director of Information Technology > > Indigo Wireless > > > +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312> > > > > > On 11/15/13, 11:19 AM, Eric Flanery wrote: > > > How would you 'legally' define a WISP? > > > > > > What would make Comcast 'not a WISP', if they are delivering > > Internet over Wireless? > > > > > > If it's that they also deliver Internet over another medium, > > would we (and many other providers) also be excluded because we also > > deliver Internet over cable and fiber? > > > > > > If it's that they also provide TV service, then what about those > > of us that also run transport, hosting, development, and > > infrastructure services (examples among doubtless myriad others). > > > > > > Not that I wouldn't love some protected spectrum, I'm just having > > a hard time imagining anything that would prevent Comcast and the > > like from using it, while not also excluding quite a few of us. > > > > > > --Eric > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > >
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