Procera? Limits the traffic based on rules you create. Some people drop Netflix to 1500k per customer. Some do 4/5 of an AP capacity for Netflix. I've heard several totally different methodologies.
The bottle neck in most cases is the AP (last mile). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 28, 2014 2:03 PM, "Timothy Way" <t...@way.vg> wrote: > My bad, I must have misunderstood. Where in the network is the congestion > that these are meant to be fixed? I'm guessing it is some piece of a WISP > network that is owned on both ends (customer <--> tower)? Does this product > somehow compress traffic to squeeze more out of a link you own both ends of? > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard. The >> issue isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc> wrote: >> >>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's >>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates, >>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is >>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device >>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server. >>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has >>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to >>> our open (public) wireless network. >>> >>> Tim Way >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco < >>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have >>>> (and the experince you want to give to the users) >>>> >>>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to >>>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth >>>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies. >>>> >>>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g. >>>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to >>>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in >>>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing >>>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have >>>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are >>>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models. >>>> >>>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :) >>>> >>>> Just my 2 cents >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for >>>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether >>>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers >>>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow. >>>> > >>>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure >>>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices. >>>> > >>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig >>>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM >>>> > *To:* WISPA General List >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>>> > >>>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a >>>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > >>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>) >>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > >>>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto: >>>> j...@spitwspots.com>> >>>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM >>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>>> > >>>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine >>>> > >>>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer >>>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com> >>>> > >>>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >>>> > >>>> > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a >>>> > couple of what seem to be similar products available: >>>> > >>>> > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so >>>> > they live up to their name :) ) >>>> > >>>> > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it >>>> > >>>> > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot >>>> > >>>> > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would >>>> > not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the >>>> > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long >>>> > time ago we used this >>>> > >>>> > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a >>>> > difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw >>>> > in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control >>>> > over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware >>>> > running on an open source operating system with custom code could >>>> > fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > >>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>) >>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > >>>> > *From: *"Dave Barker" <d...@broadlincwireless.com> >>>> > <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com> >>>> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM >>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>>> > >>>> > Back to the original question, is there anything else out there >>>> > that does what Procera can do? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com >>>> > <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through >>>> > Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using >>>> > their web based support system. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Arthur Stephens >>>> > >>>> > Senior Networking Technician >>>> > >>>> > Ptera Inc. >>>> > >>>> > PO Box 135 >>>> > >>>> > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>>> > >>>> > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>>> > >>>> > 509-927-7837 >>>> > >>>> > ptera.com <http://ptera.com> >>>> > >>>> > facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | >>>> > twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety >>>> > information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it >>>> > was originally addressed. >>>> > >>>> > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any >>>> > views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>>> > the author and are not intended to represent those of the >>>> > company." >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith <wi...@mncomm.com >>>> > <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the >>>> > Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at >>>> > $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need >>>> > to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I >>>> > serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do >>>> > similar functions that may be more cost effective? >>>> > >>>> > __ >>>> > >>>> > _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left >>>> > them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from >>>> > earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern >>>> > if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support >>>> > would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back >>>> > from some actual users of their product or other similar >>>> > products._ >>>> > >>>> > __ >>>> > >>>> > _Thanks_ >>>> > >>>> > _Heith_ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > >>>> > __ >>>> > >>>> > __ >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>> > >>>> > __ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > >>>> > _________________________________________________ >>>> > >>>> > _Wireless mailing list_ >>>> > >>>> > _wirel...@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org>_ >>>> > >>>> > _http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>> > >>>> > _ >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>> > >>>> > __ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > Wireless@wispa.org >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Ing. 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