Mostly at the access point. It allows you to implement rules that
control different types of applications in any grouping you desire -
most people do it at the AP. So, for example, you can create a shaper
that only allows a maximum of 20Mbps of streaming video at an access
point. Or only 80Mbps of software updates across a particular backhaul.
Or whatever makes sense for the network. You can use it to keep your
upstream from being saturated also, but that is generally not the most
pressing/hard to solve issue for WISPs, since it is normally easy to
increase your upstream capacity.
On 10/28/2014 1:03 PM, Timothy Way wrote:
My bad, I must have misunderstood. Where in the network is the
congestion that these are meant to be fixed? I'm guessing it is some
piece of a WISP network that is owned on both ends (customer <-->
tower)? Does this product somehow compress traffic to squeeze more out
of a link you own both ends of?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I don't think many people care about caching servers in this
regard. The issue isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all
the APs.
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc
<mailto:t...@way.lc>> wrote:
For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at
Apple's Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple
software updates, iTunes content and basically anything Apple
in a local cache that is transparent to the client. Apple
looks at the source IP of the device asking for content and
tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server. My day
job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This
has prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release
updates in regards to our open (public) wireless network.
Tim Way
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
<paolo.difrance...@level7.it
<mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
Hello,
it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much
bandwidth you have
(and the experince you want to give to the users)
In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they
(all) try to
improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the
bandwidth
with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic
locally (e.g.
Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for
sure you have to
work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The
nice thing, in
that case, is that you will be more aware of what your
users are doing
and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is
that you have
to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the
hardware, many are
using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
Just my 2 cents
> Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to
Exinda for
> years, we are now considering removing bandwidth
managers altogether
> and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies
on core routers
> & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>
> More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in
infrastructure
> rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth
management devices.
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a
product and a
> library available. Have contacted them for additional
information.
>
>
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>
> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net> <mailto:lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net>>)
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
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Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995> – Other areas,
toll-free
>
>
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>
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com
<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>>>
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
<http://www.spitwspots.com> <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>
> On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>
> We have done some searching in this arena and have
only found a
> couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>
> Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot,
costs a lot so
> they live up to their name :) )
>
> Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>
> NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as
Procera / Allot
>
> Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their
boxes, would
> not EVER use again not because of the software /
hardware but the
> owner / lead developer which may have changed as it
was a long
> time ago we used this
>
> Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution,
just having a
> difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say
we all throw
> in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that
we have control
> over :) I have to believe some decent server quality
hardware
> running on an open source operating system with
custom code could
> fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this
myself.
>
>
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>
> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net> <mailto:lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net>>)
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> (920) 452-0455 <tel:%28920%29%20452-0455> –
Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995> – Other areas,
toll-free
>
>
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>
> *From: *"Dave Barker" <d...@broadlincwireless.com
<mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com>>
> <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com
<mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com>>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> Back to the original question, is there anything
else out there
> that does what Procera can do?
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens
<asteph...@ptera.com <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>
> <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com
<mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>>> wrote:
>
> I can not speak for sales since we bought our
Procera through
> Powercode - but tech support has be very
responsive using
> their web based support system.
>
> --
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>
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>
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> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith
<wi...@mncomm.com <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>
> <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
<mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>>> wrote:
>
> So the last booth I visited at Wispa in
Vegas was the
> Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn
more, but at
> $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as
I would need
> to purchase 4 of them for my current
locations that I
> serve. Are there any other solution I can
look for to do
> similar functions that may be more cost
effective?
>
> __
>
> _I am also a little leery at the fact that I
have left
> them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent
an email from
> earlier this week with no return call. So
that’s a concern
> if it takes a while to get sales support if
tech support
> would be any different. So I was wanting
some feed back
> from some actual users of their product or
other similar
> products._
>
> __
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> _Thanks_
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> _Heith_
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