My bad, I must have misunderstood. Where in the network is the congestion
that these are meant to be fixed? I'm guessing it is some piece of a WISP
network that is owned on both ends (customer <--> tower)? Does this product
somehow compress traffic to squeeze more out of a link you own both ends of?

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
> issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.
>
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> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc> wrote:
>
>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's
>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates,
>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is
>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device
>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server.
>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has
>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to
>> our open (public) wireless network.
>>
>> Tim Way
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
>>> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>>>
>>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
>>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
>>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
>>>
>>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
>>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
>>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
>>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
>>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
>>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
>>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
>>>
>>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
>>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
>>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
>>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>>> >
>>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
>>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>>> >
>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
>>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
>>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>> >
>>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
>>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>)
>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:
>>> j...@spitwspots.com>>
>>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>> >
>>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>>> >
>>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>>> >
>>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
>>> >     couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>>> >
>>> >     Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
>>> >     they live up to their name :) )
>>> >
>>> >     Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>>> >
>>> >     NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>>> >
>>> >     Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
>>> >     not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
>>> >     owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
>>> >     time ago we used this
>>> >
>>> >     Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
>>> >     difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
>>> >     in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
>>> >     over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
>>> >     running on an open source operating system with custom code could
>>> >     fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >     Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>)
>>> >     Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>>> >     (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> >     (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >     *From: *"Dave Barker" <d...@broadlincwireless.com>
>>> >     <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com>
>>> >     *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> >     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>> >     *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
>>> >     *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>> >
>>> >     Back to the original question, is there anything else out there
>>> >     that does what Procera can do?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com
>>> >     <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through
>>> >         Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using
>>> >         their web based support system.
>>> >
>>> >         --
>>> >
>>> >         Arthur Stephens
>>> >
>>> >         Senior Networking Technician
>>> >
>>> >         Ptera Inc.
>>> >
>>> >         PO Box 135
>>> >
>>> >         24001 E Mission Suite 50
>>> >
>>> >         Liberty Lake, WA 99019
>>> >
>>> >         509-927-7837
>>> >
>>> >         ptera.com <http://ptera.com>
>>> >
>>> >         facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> |
>>> >         twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  
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>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >         On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith <wi...@mncomm.com
>>> >         <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >             So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the
>>> >             Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at
>>> >             $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need
>>> >             to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I
>>> >             serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do
>>> >             similar functions that may be more cost effective?
>>> >
>>> >             __
>>> >
>>> >             _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left
>>> >             them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from
>>> >             earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern
>>> >             if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support
>>> >             would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back
>>> >             from some actual users of their product or other similar
>>> >             products._
>>> >
>>> >             __
>>> >
>>> >             _Thanks_
>>> >
>>> >             _Heith_
>>> >
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