Apple doesn't put one in but you can.  Just buy a mac mini server and it
has the included caching software.



On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Paul Conlin <pcon...@blazebroadband.com>
wrote:

> Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions does Apple put
> one of these in?
>
> PC
> Blaze Broadband
>
> On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
>> issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','t...@way.lc');>> wrote:
>>
>>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's
>>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates,
>>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is
>>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device
>>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server.
>>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has
>>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to
>>> our open (public) wireless network.
>>>
>>> Tim Way
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
>>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','paolo.difrance...@level7.it');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
>>>> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>>>>
>>>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
>>>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
>>>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
>>>>
>>>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
>>>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
>>>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
>>>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
>>>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
>>>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
>>>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
>>>>
>>>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
>>>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
>>>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
>>>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>>>> >
>>>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
>>>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>>>> >
>>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wireless-boun...@wispa.org');> [mailto:
>>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wireless-boun...@wispa.org');>]
>>>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
>>>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
>>>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>> >
>>>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
>>>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lwei...@excel.net');> <mailto:
>>>> lwei...@excel.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lwei...@excel.net');>>)
>>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@spitwspots.com');> <mailto:
>>>> j...@spitwspots.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@spitwspots.com');>>>
>>>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wireless@wispa.org');> <mailto:
>>>> wireless@wispa.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wireless@wispa.org');>
>>>> >
>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>> >
>>>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>>>> >
>>>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>>>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
>>>> >     couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
>>>> >     they live up to their name :) )
>>>> >
>>>> >     Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>>>> >
>>>> >     NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>>>> >
>>>> >     Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
>>>> >     not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
>>>> >     owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
>>>> >     time ago we used this
>>>> >
>>>> >     Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
>>>> >     difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
>>>> >     in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
>>>> >     over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
>>>> >     running on an open source operating system with custom code could
>>>> >     fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> >     Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lwei...@excel.net');> <mailto:
>>>> lwei...@excel.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lwei...@excel.net');>>)
>>>> >     Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>>>> >     (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>>> >     (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> >     *From: *"Dave Barker" <d...@broadlincwireless.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@broadlincwireless.com');>>
>>>> >     <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@broadlincwireless.com');>>
>>>> >     *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wireless@wispa.org');>>
>>>> >     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wireless@wispa.org');>>
>>>> >     *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
>>>> >     *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>> >
>>>> >     Back to the original question, is there anything else out there
>>>> >     that does what Procera can do?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','asteph...@ptera.com');>
>>>> >     <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','asteph...@ptera.com');>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >         I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through
>>>> >         Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using
>>>> >         their web based support system.
>>>> >
>>>> >         --
>>>> >
>>>> >         Arthur Stephens
>>>> >
>>>> >         Senior Networking Technician
>>>> >
>>>> >         Ptera Inc.
>>>> >
>>>> >         PO Box 135
>>>> >
>>>> >         24001 E Mission Suite 50
>>>> >
>>>> >         Liberty Lake, WA 99019
>>>> >
>>>> >         509-927-7837
>>>> >
>>>> >         ptera.com <http://ptera.com>
>>>> >
>>>> >         facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> |
>>>> >         twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>  
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>>>> >         On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith <wi...@mncomm.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wi...@mncomm.com');>
>>>> >         <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wi...@mncomm.com');>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >             So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the
>>>> >             Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at
>>>> >             $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need
>>>> >             to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I
>>>> >             serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do
>>>> >             similar functions that may be more cost effective?
>>>> >
>>>> >             __
>>>> >
>>>> >             _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left
>>>> >             them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from
>>>> >             earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern
>>>> >             if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support
>>>> >             would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back
>>>> >             from some actual users of their product or other similar
>>>> >             products._
>>>> >
>>>> >             __
>>>> >
>>>> >             _Thanks_
>>>> >
>>>> >             _Heith_
>>>> >
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