Yup to summarize this down into a single mail for those that are interested.
Mac Mini: Starts at $499.00 USD (w/a 500GB internal hard drive) Mac OS X Server: iTunes store for $19.99 USD (requires a Mac OS X computer) Some useful links: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH15443 https://www.apple.com/osx/server/features/#caching-server https://help.apple.com/advancedserveradmin/mac/3.0/#apdC36C9994-1533-4DCB-9CFF-870CB0FADCDB Just a little creativity and a small capital investment and you are off to the running server Apple content caching to your network behind your upstream provider. Last note: If you are into it you can now legally w/support run Mac OS X in a virtual machine on ESXi if your ESXi install is running on a piece of Mac hardware. There are plenty of guides out there showing people that have setup ESXi environments using Mac Pro's if that is what wet's your whistle. Tim Way On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > I think it's like WSUS. Free to use. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Oct 29, 2014 11:33 AM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > >> Apple doesn't put one in but you can. Just buy a mac mini server and it >> has the included caching software. >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Paul Conlin <pcon...@blazebroadband.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions does Apple put >>> one of these in? >>> >>> PC >>> Blaze Broadband >>> >>> On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard. >>>> The issue isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's >>>>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates, >>>>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is >>>>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device >>>>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching >>>>> server. >>>>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has >>>>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to >>>>> our open (public) wireless network. >>>>> >>>>> Tim Way >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco < >>>>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you >>>>>> have >>>>>> (and the experince you want to give to the users) >>>>>> >>>>>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to >>>>>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth >>>>>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g. >>>>>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have >>>>>> to >>>>>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in >>>>>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing >>>>>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have >>>>>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are >>>>>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models. >>>>>> >>>>>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Just my 2 cents >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for >>>>>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether >>>>>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core >>>>>> routers >>>>>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure >>>>>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: >>>>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig >>>>>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM >>>>>> > *To:* WISPA General List >>>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product >>>>>> and a >>>>>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>) >>>>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto: >>>>>> j...@spitwspots.com>> >>>>>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM >>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>>>>> > >>>>>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer >>>>>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a >>>>>> > couple of what seem to be similar products available: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so >>>>>> > they live up to their name :) ) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it >>>>>> > >>>>>> > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / >>>>>> Allot >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, >>>>>> would >>>>>> > not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but >>>>>> the >>>>>> > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long >>>>>> > time ago we used this >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a >>>>>> > difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all >>>>>> throw >>>>>> > in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have >>>>>> control >>>>>> > over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware >>>>>> > running on an open source operating system with custom code >>>>>> could >>>>>> > fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>) >>>>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *From: *"Dave Barker" <d...@broadlincwireless.com> >>>>>> > <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com> >>>>>> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM >>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Back to the original question, is there anything else out there >>>>>> > that does what Procera can do? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com >>>>>> > <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera >>>>>> through >>>>>> > Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using >>>>>> > their web based support system. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Arthur Stephens >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Senior Networking Technician >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Ptera Inc. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > PO Box 135 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 509-927-7837 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ptera.com <http://ptera.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | >>>>>> > twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety >>>>>> > information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom >>>>>> it >>>>>> > was originally addressed. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that >>>>>> any >>>>>> > views or opinions presented in this email are solely those >>>>>> of >>>>>> > the author and are not intended to represent those of the >>>>>> > company." >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith <wi...@mncomm.com >>>>>> > <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the >>>>>> > Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but >>>>>> at >>>>>> > $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would >>>>>> need >>>>>> > to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I >>>>>> > serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do >>>>>> > similar functions that may be more cost effective? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > __ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left >>>>>> > them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from >>>>>> > earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a >>>>>> concern >>>>>> > if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support >>>>>> > would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back >>>>>> > from some actual users of their product or other similar >>>>>> > products._ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > __ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _Thanks_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _Heith_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > __ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > __ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ________________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > __ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _________________________________________________ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _Wireless mailing list_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _wirel...@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org>_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>>>> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > __ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>>>> > Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ing. 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