So if they're that old... how many toolbars are using up how much
bandwidth on your network?
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-98762-1215487350.jpg
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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com>
*To: *wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:10:23 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
Most of our clients are on computers thatare like 8+ year old desktop
pcs running windows XP and win98. :/
I looked at our traffic to apple servers and it's something like 1.5%
(via IPOQUE).
Apple caching is probably more important in some areas than others.
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 10/30/2014 01:40 PM, Paul Conlin wrote:
Because management of Apple iOS updates is one big thing that
Procera can do to help optimize a WISPs network. But if you are
running a low cost low overhead Apple update caching server you
could very easily do this without an expensive Procera box.
PC
Blaze Broadband
On October 30, 2014 5:33:59 PM EDT, Josh Reynolds
<j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:
Quick question,
Maybe I missed something, but how did we go from traffic
shaping and DPI devices to something that does caching for
apple stuff? Those are two entirely different classes of products.
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 10/30/2014 01:30 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
It can work on networks not behind a NAT.
http://help.apple.com/serverapp/mac/4.0/#/apd6015d9573
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>
*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike
Hammett
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:38 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
Okay, so it would be for networks behind a NAT.
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*From: *"Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net
<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>>
*To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:22:16 PM
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Disregard my “AFAIK” answer. This is the real answer per
http://www.nbalonso.com/os-x-server-caching/
“The cache server registers online with Apple and provides
it’s public IP, your servers local IP, internal DNS name?
(not sure of the dns)”
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>
*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:12 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
I couldn't see how other people are supposed to know you
have one of these caches running.
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*From: *"Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net
<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>>
*To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
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OSX Server is a $19.99 add-on to OSX Yosemite. You can
virtualize OSX in ESXi (of course it won’t be supported by
Apple unless it’s Apple hardware.)
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>
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*On Behalf Of *Paul Conlin
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:57 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions
does Apple put one of these in?
PC
Blaze Broadband
On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I don't think many people care about caching servers
in this regard. The issue isn't the upstream pipe
filling up, it's all the APs.
Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way
<t...@way.lc <mailto:t...@way.lc>> wrote:
For those that are unaware of it you should take a
look at Apple's Caching Server 2. It is pretty
cool, it provides Apple software updates, iTunes
content and basically anything Apple in a local
cache that is transparent to the client. Apple
looks at the source IP of the device asking for
content and tells it to hit the local IP of your
caching server. My day job is a Network
Administrator at a technical college. This has
prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they
release updates in regards to our open (public)
wireless network.
Tim Way
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di
Francesco <paolo.difrance...@level7.it
<mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
Hello,
it depends on what you want/can achieve and
how much bandwidth you have
(and the experince you want to give to the users)
In few words: those boxes do not invent
bandwidth they (all) try to
improve how you manage it. So those boxes are
managing the bandwidth
with their policies that could or could not
fit your policies.
Some simple tricks will help you to move the
traffic locally (e.g.
Implementing local web-caching, local DNS,
etc) but for sure you have to
work on the infrastructure to optimize the
traffic. The nice thing, in
that case, is that you will be more aware of
what your users are doing
and how to make them happy; the bad part of
the story is that you have
to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For
the hardware, many are
using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper
Mikrotik models.
For sure investing more in infrastructure will
help a lot :)
Just my 2 cents
> Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years,
then moved to Exinda for
> years, we are now considering removing
bandwidth managers altogether
> and relying solely on policing on radios,
QoS policies on core routers
> & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows
using Netflow.
>
> More work, but much less $$. Allows us to
invest in infrastructure
> rather than extraordinarily expensive
bandwidth management devices.
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar
product
>
> Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems
they have a product and a
> library available. Have contacted them for
additional information.
>
>
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<mailto:lwei...@excel.net><mailto:lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net>>)
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> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com
<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com><mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>>>
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org><mailto:wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar
product
>
> should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
<http://www.spitwspots.com><http://www.spitwspots.com>
>
> On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>
> We have done some searching in this
arena and have only found a
> couple of what seem to be similar
products available:
>
> Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does
a lot, costs a lot so
> they live up to their name :) )
>
> Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>
> NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as
featured as Procera / Allot
>
> Emerging Technologies - We used to have one
of their boxes, would
> not EVER use again not because of the
software / hardware but the
> owner / lead developer which may have
changed as it was a long
> time ago we used this
>
> Overall it seemed Procera was the best
solution, just having a
> difficult time justifying the expense as
well. I say we all throw
> in $5K, hire some developers and get one
made that we have control
> over :) I have to believe some decent
server quality hardware
> running on an open source operating
system with custom code could
> fit the bill. Just don't have time to
work on this myself.
>
>
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> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net><mailto:lwei...@excel.net
<mailto:lwei...@excel.net>>)
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
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> (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995>–
Other areas, toll-free
>
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> *From: *"Dave Barker"
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> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar
product
>
> Back to the original question, is there
anything else out there
> that does what Procera can do?
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art
Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com
<mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>
> <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com
<mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>>> wrote:
>
> I can not speak for sales since we
bought our Procera through
> Powercode - but tech support has be very
responsive using
> their web based support system.
>
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> So the last booth I visited at Wispa in
Vegas was the
> Procera booth. I am hooked and want to
learn more, but at
> $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow,
as I would need
> to purchase 4 of them for my current
locations that I
> serve. Are there any other solution I can
look for to do
> similar functions that may be more cost
effective?
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> __
>
> _I am also a little leery at the fact that
I have left
> them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent
an email from
> earlier this week with no return call. So
that’s a concern
> if it takes a while to get sales support if
tech support
> would be any different. So I was wanting
some feed back
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other similar
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