Thanks Dan,

I understand Safari is more stable than when it first appeared.

I've got MSIE 7 beta 2 running. It runs much better than the first beta.

Here's a tip, if installing MSIE 7 beta, it'll remove your previous version of 
MSIE - which makes it very annoying if a website doesn't recognize the new 
version and you want to go back to the previous version (you can't, easily).

This is different than back in the olden days when MSIE 5 & 6 betas came out - 
they let you keep your old versions while testing.

I had to install a Virtual Machine of WinXP to host the MSIE 7 betas so it 
doesn't mess up my main workstation.

I also installed Windows Vista with MSIE 7 in a Virtual Machine - it's very 
pretty, but I have to admit all the Security prompts, webpage blocking and 
warning bubbles is F'n annoying!!!

   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:52 AM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
> 
> Scoot,
> 
> I have found these latest builds of safari seem to have many 
> less problems
> then earlier ones. I am running
> Version 2.0.3 (417.9.3)
> 
> I have not run not the same volume of JS errors as in the past.
> 
> Unfortunately I am not finding FireFox for Mac to be as stable as the
> windows version.
> 
> Hopefully the universal binary versions of these things will 
> clean that up.
> 
> Then again we have IE 7 and Vista coming sometime in this 
> lifetime that we
> will have to deal with.
> 
> 
> 
> on 5/29/06 13:29, Scott Cadillac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Thank you Steve,
> > 
> > I appreciate your words.
> > 
> > Actually I've wanted to do this for years, but the demand 
> just wasn't there,
> > considering I have in the past spent most of my time 
> building intranet-style
> > business applications. I have yet to encounter a large 
> corporation that uses
> > Mac workstations.
> > 
> > But now I'm working on a very large public-facing system 
> that happens to have
> > a fair contingent of Mac users.
> > 
> > For the past couple years I regularly test with 
> Mozilla-based browsers i.e.,
> > Firefox, which I understand renders consistently on Mac as 
> it does on Windows.
> > 
> > It's that d*** Safari that's the problem ;-)
> > 
> >    
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:14 AM
> >> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
> >> 
> >> Well as long as you are testing with Mac OS which of course
> >> was the original point of this thread. I'm sure the other Mac
> >> users would agree, we absolutely hate those Windows
> >> developers that are so narrow minded as to only test with the
> >> latest and greatest and expect everyone else to spend as much
> >> time keeping things up-to-date.
> >> 
> >> I hope that many more Windows developers take your approach
> >> and treat the other platforms with respect.
> >> 
> >> As a Mac user...
> >> 
> >> Thank you!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Steve Smith
> >> 
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> >> 
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> >> 
> >> On 27-May-06, at 6:13 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Stephen,
> >> 
> >> I used to think the same thing about Virtual Machines,
> >> but I've been using VMWare now nearly everyday for over 3
> >> years now - and I've never encountered a visual or function
> >> difference in how a Virtual Machine performs over real hardware.
> >> 
> >> There is a slight performance decrease of course, when
> >> compared to the host Operating System, and full-motion video
> >> will struggle a little, but it's no less different than
> >> running on a real machine with slightly lower hardware specs
> >> than the host machine.
> >> 
> >> I even spent two years doing a huge development project
> >> with Visual Studio, SQL Server 2000 and Crystal Report where
> >> the whole works was hosted inside a Windows 2000 Advanced
> >> Server running as a Virtual Machine. Never had a problem.
> >> 
> >> I can boot all versions of Windows, and a wide matrix
> >> of browsers for testing. I even have Ubuntu Linux running for
> >> testing some real crap browsers.
> >> 
> >> And as I type, I happen to be installing Windows Vista
> >> Beta2 - on the same machine.
> >> 
> >> Ain't software fun?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:28 PM
> >> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure what form of testing you are
> >> hoping for but if
> >> is to test an application that will eventually
> >> be viewed on a 
> >> Mac, then using any form of VM is not the way
> >> to go. I don't 
> >> trust VM for true testing of an end user's experience.
> >> 
> >> Also look into the cost of OS X on it's own vs.
> >> the cost of a 
> >> Mini. According to the Apple Canada web site:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mac Mini $699 in the base configuration which
> >> includes OS X
> >> Mac OS X $149 for single user
> >> 
> >> $550 might seem like a lot but I believe that
> >> it will be well 
> >> worth the investment. Especially if you run
> >> Boot Camp on it 
> >> which will allow it to run as an extra Windows machine.
> >> 
> >> Just my 2 cents (which hey, is almost worth 2
> >> cents US!!!)
> >> 
> >> Steve Smith
> >> 
> >> Oakbridge Information Solutions
> >> Oakville Office:         (416) 628-0793
> >> Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
> >> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Web: www.oakbridge.ca <http://www.oakbridge.ca/>
> >> 
> >> Certified DayLite
> >> <http://www.oakbridge.ca/daylite.tml>
> >> Premier Partners
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 26-May-06, at 9:27 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> For those of you in the know,
> >> 
> >> I am considering an attempt to install Mac OS X as a
> >> VMWare virtual machine, as a test environment
> >> for my apps 
> >> with Safari and other Mac-based browsers. There
> >> are several 
> >> unofficial instructions on how to do this, with
> >> a bit of searching.
> >> 
> >> My question is: Does the latest version of OS X
> >> automatically support Intel, or do I need a
> >> special version?
> >> 
> >> http://www.apple.com/macosx/
> >> 
> >> When I click on the link to buy, the hardware
> >> requirements simply says "PowerPC G5, G4 or G3
> >> processor".
> >> 
> >> Any insight would be helpful, thanks.
> >> 
> >> Scott Cadillac, 
> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> http://scott.cadillac.bz
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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