Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question

Mon, 29 May 2006 10:14:23 -0700

Well as long as you are testing with Mac OS which of course was the original point of this thread. I'm sure the other Mac users would agree, we absolutely hate those Windows developers that are so narrow minded as to only test with the latest and greatest and expect everyone else to spend as much time keeping things up-to-date.

I hope that many more Windows developers take your approach and treat the other platforms with respect.

As a Mac user...

Thank you!

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
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On 27-May-06, at 6:13 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Hi Stephen,

I used to think the same thing about Virtual Machines, but I've been using VMWare now nearly everyday for over 3 years now - and I've never encountered a visual or function difference in how a Virtual Machine performs over real hardware.

There is a slight performance decrease of course, when compared to the host Operating System, and full-motion video will struggle a little, but it's no less different than running on a real machine with slightly lower hardware specs than the host machine.

I even spent two years doing a huge development project with Visual Studio, SQL Server 2000 and Crystal Report where the whole works was hosted inside a Windows 2000 Advanced Server running as a Virtual Machine. Never had a problem.

I can boot all versions of Windows, and a wide matrix of browsers for testing. I even have Ubuntu Linux running for testing some real crap browsers.

And as I type, I happen to be installing Windows Vista Beta2 - on the same machine.

Ain't software fun?


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question

I'm not sure what form of testing you are hoping for but if 
is to test an application that will eventually be viewed on a 
Mac, then using any form of VM is not the way to go. I don't 
trust VM for true testing of an end user's experience.

Also look into the cost of OS X on it's own vs. the cost of a 
Mini. According to the Apple Canada web site:


Mac Mini $699 in the base configuration which includes OS X
Mac OS X $149 for single user

$550 might seem like a lot but I believe that it will be well 
worth the investment. Especially if you run Boot Camp on it 
which will allow it to run as an extra Windows machine.

Just my 2 cents (which hey, is almost worth 2 cents US!!!)

Steve Smith

Oakbridge Information Solutions
Oakville Office:         (416) 628-0793
Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
Web: www.oakbridge.ca <http://www.oakbridge.ca/> 

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On 26-May-06, at 9:27 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:


For those of you in the know,

I am considering an attempt to install Mac OS X as a 
VMWare virtual machine, as a test environment for my apps 
with Safari and other Mac-based browsers. There are several 
unofficial instructions on how to do this, with a bit of searching.

My question is: Does the latest version of OS X 
automatically support Intel, or do I need a special version?


When I click on the link to buy, the hardware 
requirements simply says "PowerPC G5, G4 or G3 processor".

Any insight would be helpful, thanks.

Scott Cadillac, 



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