yup, but then I take the point of view that web pages are created to
communicate with your audience. If people like me are part of your
audience, flash is pretty much unsuitable.
That doesn't mean there aren't audiences for whom flash is the right
answer, just that thought and analysis are needed to make sure your
communication medium is appropriate to both your message and your audience.
No different really from writing your web content in Latin :}
sven
kate wrote:
because users like Sven disable it by default
No disrespect to Sven but that must be the pits to take the very long
learning curve:
Create the Flash:
Then along comes 'A Visitor' and disable all your hard work..*doh
Kate
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sam Sherlock <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org <mailto:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:13 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] Full flash websites
As many have already commented I apply caution when using flash
(because of it creates extra work, because users like Sven disable
it by default and much more besides)
The thing is some clients care initially more for the visual appeal
(things bouncing around etc) of websites and not for features that
improve the accessibility or user experience overall.
others have made points about ensuring content is available to all.
In a lot of cases it is possible to display the same content in a no
flash format (server side scripting helps a great deal - not
writing script srcs or codeblocks to the page [setting this in a
user setting session var])
I make use of swfObject to replace a summary of the content that the
swf displays, often with links to further info
of the extent of work produced by this can mushroom, and become
unwieldy. admittedly this is much easier if the site is not full
browser flash, but if the site is small and all the content is
loaded in dynamically
Flash can recreate (often poorly) things that are achieved with
traditional html - deep linking
And this is then an aspect of the site that must be cared for,
increasing the overall complexity (and therefore potential err) -
there if a lot to bear in mind here
also there is shadowbox (by Michael Jackson [not the former jackson
5 pop sensation]) that does a real nice job in displaying all
kinds of content lightbox (lokesh dhakar) style of the page - this
is what Ben Buchanan was refering to I think -
http://mjijackson.com/shadowbox/index.html
- S
2008/5/6 Ben Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
> What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists
think about full
> flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for
flash in
> general??
Accessibility and search engine visibility of Flash in most
cases is zero. I've only heard of one Flash site that was
considered accessible and it made a lot of news at the time!
Flash only reliably works for users with no physical or
technical barriers; and search engines can't read Flash in any
useful manner. I generally don't like the usability aspects
either - that's subjective I guess, but I've found Flash is
generally used when someone thought HTML didn't make them look
cool enough. Which means they wanted lots of stuff to bounce and
flash and so on ;)
Essentially you should only ever add a Flash layer over the top
of XHTML; and give users the choice between the two. Flash isn't
evil, but *only offering Flash* is evil.
-ben
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