Ed, I am kind of with you but we have to remember the users may not be making those decisions, their IT dept might. Often the argument is 'we have dedicated systems that reply on IE6' or 'we can't support more than one browser it costs too much to train people'. Well the later is rubbish IMHO but the former is a real issue however why not just have IE6 for those, usually internal, systems and another modern browser for general use? Having worked in big organisations with heavy control on the desktop I can see the trap they get caught in however it is not that difficult to get out of it. No they can't have IE6 and IE8 (please no one tell them how they CAN!!!) but then they can have FF, Safari, Opera, Chrome. As a company pick one and add it as part of the standard controlled desktop.
Easy. Isn't it? Of course there are those who will say, 'what? there are OTHER browsers?' or 'what's a browser?' That's an industry education project in itself. Steve. On 14 Jun 2010, at 14:31, Edward Lynn wrote: > Hi everyone, > > For me the IE6 issue is to a degree self perpetuating. We all do our best to > support IE6 and provide an experience which is as little degraded as > possible, and in doing that very thing, we give IE6 users no reason to > upgrade. If everyone started not to ignore ie6, but to give them a degraded > experience, and advise the user what they are missing out on, perhaps these > users would start have have more of a reason to upgrade. > > Ed > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Foskett, Mike <mike.fosk...@uk.tesco.com> > wrote: > Sorry Andy, > > > Given the competitive nature that exists between the large UK retailers I > feel professionally uncomfortable releasing such data. > > That's why actual numbers were replaced with percentages. > > > Mike > > > From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On > Behalf Of Andrew Stewart > Sent: 11 June 2010 13:16 > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS] > > > Mike, > > > Thanks for this, whilst the sites I manage are pretty low-traffic, I too have > been seeing IE6 traffic of about 10-15%. > > > By mentioning "shoppers" I guess you are running an e-commerce site. I would > be very interested to know how your revenue is split across browsers. It > seems that IE6 users are either in a corporate system using an XP standard > operating environment or people using older computers who may be a bit > out-of-date when it comes to technology. Would it be reasonable to assume > that the second category probably don't spend much money online? - so maybe > the percentage of revenue gained from IE6 users may be much lower that 10% ? > > > Thanks, > > > Andy > > > > On 11 Jun 2010, at 21:32, Foskett, Mike wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > Ref "Links for light reading" article: > http://mashable.com/2010/06/01/ie6-below-5-percent/ > > > Which basically states IEv6 has dropped below the 5% threshold across USA and > Europe. > > > I just took a peek at our own stats for May 2010. > > A very large set limited to UK online shoppers only. > > And I couldn't agree less with the article. > > > Our figures are from such a large representation they cannot be readily > ignored. > > While I cannot print the actual numbers, the browser percentages should be > fine. > > I thought they may be of use to others working in the UK and of general use > worldwide. > > > Internet explorer only: > > IEv8: 48.26% > > IEv7: 37.14% > > IEv6: 14.58% > > Other: 0.02% > > > In general: > > IE: 66.12% > > Firefox: 16.25% > > Safari: 8.06% > > Chrome: 6.89% > > Others: 2.67% > > > So IEv6 is still at 9.64% overall. Virtually double that stated by the > article. > > Sorry for the bad news but IEv6 is still too relevant to ignore. > > And by the way who actually said 5% is the "ignorable" threshold? > > I'd of thought more like 2-3% personally. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike Foskett > > http://websemantics.co.uk/ > > > > This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. 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